Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm encouraged with the way Hardy is developing Ochai and Walker and giving them more as they seem ready for it. I trust he will do the same with Collin. I am convinced his hands are tied on Rudy Gay until after the trade deadline.

Yes, Hardy's development style thus far is consistent, but slow. He doesnt have his guys doing too much. The Trib had an article about it today. He doesnt want his young guys failing too much because he thinks too much failure can lead to extended failure. He doesnt seem to be a believer in "throwing them in the fire regardless of their preparedness level".

 

[Elizah Huge]

THey gave him that to make the Donny deal work bud.

They gave a player a 4/72M contract just to make a trade work?

 

[HeatCheck]

Still too rich for my blood... Like would you do Ochai and 2 of the unprotected firsts? I would not... I'd wait out the season and send them or whoever traded for him a lower offer maybe.

Thinking about it the past hour and I would reluctantly do Sexton, Agbaji + 1 FRP for Anunoby. I believe both Sexton and Agbaji can be rotation players on a championship team but OG has potential to be a starting wing on a championship team. FWIW I would definitely NOT send this type of package for Collins..no way.

I really love Sexton's energy and dynamic scoring ability as our 6th man. The kid's a gamer. I really like Ochai's potential but what are the chances he will develop into an OG tier defender. OG has been struggling a bit with his shot, the whole Toronto team has been struggling, but he and Mikal Bridges are the 2 best 3&D guys in the league. Anunoby is still only 25 and on Lauri's timeline. Ochai is almost 23. There's plenty of upside but he isn't going to ascend to OG's tier by the time he hits 25. He also doesn't have OG's size. Let's be honest the Jazz really need a big athletic, defensive player on the wing and they've about played themselves out of a chance to draft the elite wing prospects such as the Thompson Twins. Also, Toronto is in danger of losing their backcourt to free agency this summer. Both Sexton/Agbaji could play off 6'-8" Scottie Barnes assuming he's their PG of the future. I'm guessing Rap fans would stick their nose up at that deal but think it could be great for both teams similar to how the Don trade was great for both Cle and us. Most of us stuck our noses in the air when we heard about the Don deal. It would actually be kinda nuts if Danny ended up turning Don into Lauri+Anunoby+picks. Of course Masai would likely try to pry Kessler from the Jazz and that's definitely not happening.

Anyway those are my long winded thoughts. I do not want to trade either Sexton/Agbaji who are both A+ character types in the lockerroom. However if they can land a long, athletic, ready to win type wing like Anunoby then you consider pulling the trigger, dependent on the draft pick compensation of course. If Raps were smart they would turn around and use the draft capital to acquire Poeltl from the Spurs. Their strategy of an all 6'-8" type lineup seemed edgy and ahead of the curve but the truth of the matter is you still need a center and at least one dynamic guard on your roster in today's NBA.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Thinking about it the past hour and I would reluctantly do Sexton, Agbaji + 1 FRP for Anunoby. I believe both Sexton and Agbaji can be rotation players on a championship team but OG has potential to be a starting wing on a championship team. FWIW I would definitely NOT send this type of package for Collins..no way.

I really love Sexton's energy and dynamic scoring ability as our 6th man. The kid's a gamer. I really like Ochai's potential but what are the chances he will develop into an OG tier defender. OG has been struggling a bit with his shot, the whole Toronto team has been struggling, but he and Mikal Bridges are the 2 best 3&D guys in the league. Anunoby is still only 25 and on Lauri's timeline. Ochai is almost 23. There's plenty of upside but he isn't going to ascend to OG's tier by the time he hits 25. He also doesn't have OG's size. Let's be honest the Jazz really need a big athletic, defensive player on the wing and they've about played themselves out of a chance to draft the elite wing prospects such as the Thompson Twins. Also, Toronto is in danger of losing their backcourt to free agency this summer. Both Sexton/Agbaji could play off 6'-8" Scottie Barnes assuming he's their PG of the future. I'm guessing Rap fans would stick their nose up at that deal but think it could be great for both teams similar to how the Don trade was great for both Cle and us. Most of us stuck our noses in the air when we heard about the Don deal. It would actually be kinda nuts if Danny ended up turning Don into Lauri+Anunoby+picks. Of course Masai would likely try to pry Kessler from the Jazz and that's definitely not happening.

Anyway those are my long winded thoughts. I do not want to trade either Sexton/Agbaji who are both A+ character types in the lockerroom. However if they can land a long, athletic, ready to win type wing like Anunoby then you consider pulling the trigger, dependent on the draft pick compensation of course. If Raps were smart they would turn around and use the draft capital to acquire Poeltl from the Spurs. Their strategy of an all 6'-8" type lineup seemed edgy and ahead of the curve but the truth of the matter is you still need a center and at least one dynamic guard on your roster in today's NBA.

RELUCTANT????

Good god, if they took Sexton/Ochai/1st for OG I would be tap dancing.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Markkanen/Okoro/Agbaji or Markkanen/Osman/Agbaji work for Donovan straight accross but yeah we gave Sexton a 4/72M contract to make the trade work.

 

[HeatCheck]

THey gave him that to make the Donny deal work bud.

Yes the starting salary had to be in that range to work however they could've just given him a 2+1 type deal or a 3 year deal if that were the case though. They obviously had designs to develop him under their new coaching staff, which is what they have been doing along with the other young guys on this roster.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Markkanen/Okoro/Agbaji or Markkanen/Osman/Agbaji work for Donovan straight accross but yeah we have Sexton a 4/72M contract to make the trade work.

They probably didnt want to give up Okoro or Osman. They needed wings and they were in a pickle with the Sexton contract. I also doubt Utah really wanted either of those guys. They probably wanted Sexton more than those two, but that doesnt mean they were super high on Sexton.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes the starting salary had to be in that range to work however they could've just given him a 2+1 type deal or a 3 year deal if that were the case though. They obviously had designs to develop him under their new coaching staff, which is what they have been doing along with the other young guys on this roster.

4 year deal is better because the back end of the deal will be great due to the raising cap.

I'm not a fan of Sexton or his contract, but it's a fine deal for a player who is always going to be productive. It will be a great deal when the cap raises and guys making 16 million are the MLE types.

 

[Elizah Huge]

They probably didnt want to give up Okoro or Osman. They needed wings and they were in a pickle with the Sexton contract. I also doubt Utah really wanted either of those guys. They probably wanted Sexton more than those two, but that doesnt mean they were super high on Sexton.

We were rumored to have wanted Sexton all off-season. It isn’t some coincidence.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We were rumored to have wanted Sexton all off-season. It isn’t some coincidence.

Or it was. Agents use teams all the time to drive interest in the media.

 

[Pinhead]

I agree.

They gave a player a 4/72M contract just to make a trade work?

I’m a big fan of Sexton, but in an ideal world I’d prefer a taller / longer guard in today’s NBA.

However, I think he is already as good as Clarkson is. They both can distribute the ball, and create their own shot. The biggest fault in both is that at times they get in the me-first zone and it hurts our offense at times.

He is a steal at his price tag.

 

[HeatCheck]

RELUCTANT????

Good god, if they took Sexton/Ochai/1st for OG I would be tap dancing.

Yes reluctant. The Jazz would miss those guys. Teams need dynamic scoring guards and these 2 are tied into long term contracts.

I don't get why posters want to be so down on our players (although I will say Gay is the exception).

Why spread a bad perception about our guys? I was under a totally different impression of Sexton before he got here based on what I had read on other forums. Thank goodness the kid is a hard working gamer and not at all like the supposed "ballhog" rumors that had spread before he got here.