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Bodhi said:
Nah, look at advanced stats, unless advanced stats don’t prove your point, in which case use the eye test.

Use the one that proves your point and discount the other.

Or parts of each.

Under no circumstances, change your mind. Show no weakness.
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LOL
 
Gun to your head, would you rather...

Have Donovan Mitchell at $110 million or whatever it is for 3 sexy years of volume shooting and improved defense only to watch him leave?

RJ Barrett and whatever he does well enough at $120 million across 4 years?

Or Lauri Markaanen locked up for 3 years for $51 million?

Stay thirsty my friends...
 
Bodhi said:
Nah, look at advanced stats, unless advanced stats don’t prove your point, in which case use the eye test.

Use the one that proves your point and discount the other.


Or parts of each.


Under no circumstances, change your mind. Show no weakness.
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To be more precise, here is the full progression flow of confirmation bias:
1) Form an opinion based on eye ball test or gut feeling
2) Find a stat or stats to support your opinion (CONFIRMED)
3) If #2 fails, find an advance stat or stats to support your opinion (remember all lineup variations!!!) (CONFIRMED)
4) If #2 and #3 fail, find an "expert" that supports your opinion (CONFIRMED)
5) If #2-#4 fail, seriously, find any random dude from the internet who supports your opinion (CONFIRMED)
6) If #2-#5 fail, you should really trust your gut anyways (CONFIRMED)

Veteran posters can skip phases 2-5.
 
The confirmation bias I most often see on the board is in game threads when posters only look for the good for player's they like and only look for the bad for player's they dislike. In reality all players do a mix of good or bad in every game, but for the player they like they focus on the 40% of the shots they make vs the player they dislike they focus on the 60% of the shots that they miss (as an example).

As far as statistics, I think it's important to differentiate between black box statistics like RAPTOR, LEBRON, etc. and statistics based on known calculations. If the statistics are based on known calculations, it should be possible to understand the context in which they support/refute an argument for or against an opinion about a player. Whether a person likes or dislikes a player is obviously subjective, but there are so many ways to objectively evaluate players with stats based on known calculations, that we don't need to cry confirmation bias every time statistics are used.
 
Bodhi said:
They don’t have time to develop him in the consistent 20 mins a night he’s getting in his first 2 years.

Buried on the bench. Except for those 20 mins each game….
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He only got 5 cuz the coach benched his *** tonight. He’s not good.
 
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