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[NUMBERICA]

With all the tampering going on... Wood has almost certainly already agreed to his deal with team X. I think that ship sailed... bet he gets $15-18M per year pretty easily.

You can hold on to hope but I've given up on ever getting Wood.

You're probably right, but it doesn't change that Conley is dead weight, and that #27 and cap space (even if left unused heading into the season) is preferable in my view.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ricky also gives them placeholder cap. They have so many picks that they shouldn't have much of a problem dumping Ricky into someone's cap space next offseason, then having basically three max slots (plus infinity picks and inevitable ring-chasers).

Or they can just rebuild traditionally. World's their oyster.

Yeah... I think if they could use Oubre to get off of Ricky's money they'd do it - hence my interest in the Conley swap... they could flip Conley to NY for #38 or some minor asset and Randle. I don't want a Conley for just space deal because I think Conley is good at basketball its just an imperfect fit but getting two starter level players for him... one with some upside still would be great.

I could also see them taking the Harris or Horford deal in a three team trade and collecting the picks. I would just keep stacking ****ing picks if I was them. I know they have a ton but who cares... get MOHRRRRRRRR!

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You're probably right, but it doesn't change that Conley is dead weight, and that #27 and cap space (even if left unused heading into the season) is preferable in my view.

I'm not quite that far down on Mike. there is a scenario where we lose JC and Mike becomes the super sub... and all the Conley homerz will do the I told ya so.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I saw some tweets talking about how we are all so dumb for wanting to trade Mike because look how awesome he was in feb/march. What was hilarious was people act like he figured stuff out and was finally healthy... or he just shot the ball well...Ricky had better shooting numbers than Mike with more rebounds and assists as well during the same time period.

You have to take the whole sample... I'm sorry. Its just as likely he has injuries that bother him and he ends up struggling through parts of the season this year. We won't pivot but we very likely should if a decent opportunity comes along.

 

[David Hume]

Why do teams just help the Lakers with trades like these? Geez it is like some teams act as farm systems for them.

Understood, but remember when we basically gave the Lakers Derek Fisher for free? That really bothered me. San Antonio seems like a team that would bend over backwards not to let that happen. I think we should have done better in that situation.

 

[LoPo]

I'm not quite that far down on Mike. there is a scenario where we lose JC and Mike becomes the super sub... and all the Conley homerz will do the I told ya so.

Only if our FO and Mike would be okay with Mike coming off the bench. Every single sign told us that we were better with Mike in the 2nd unit this year. We still started him. Denver simply switched to a smaller, better defending PG and we lost 3 straight.

I agree that Mike could be great off the bench. I just don't see us doing that. And, after this season, Mike probably walks.

 

[Udidthizz]

Rumours starting to surface about Harden going to Philly in a trade involving Simmons. That would mean one of my most disliked teams (Houston) loses one of my most disliked players (Harden) to one of my most disliked teams (Philly) only for him to be replaced by one of my most disliked players (Simmons).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Small trade idea... Danny Green is a real possibility... Spurs ties so might have overlapped with Dennis and Quin. Say they do him a solid and send him to us for all the expirings we can cobble together... Ed, NWG, Tony, Niang and we add #23... they give Green and #28 (assuming someone is there that they like I guess). Adds some wing depth and forces us to get a better backup center.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Only if our FO and Mike would be okay with Mike coming off the bench. Every single sign told us that we were better with Mike in the 2nd unit this year. We still started him. Denver simply switched to a smaller, better defending PG and we lost 3 straight.

I agree that Mike could be great off the bench. I just don't see us doing that. And, after this season, Mike probably walks.

I think that was a front office thing. Either way it was bad. I think they wanted to preserve trade value and I think that was part of the Joe extension (hey we give some money you be cool about coming off the bench).

He isn't coming back next year either way so I would use him how I think is best.

That was like the weirdest day and none of the local media guys pressed anyone on it... so disappointing.

 

[Eastern Orthodoxy]

Danny Green really fell off a cliff last year. He was great in Toronto, but his percentages were ghastly in LA. Are we sure that this was situational, or is the fact that he's 33 now relevant? I'd hope DL would have a good sense of that before we cashed in on him.

 

[LoPo]

Small trade idea... Danny Green is a real possibility... Spurs ties so might have overlapped with Dennis and Quin. Say they do him a solid and send him to us for all the expirings we can cobble together... Ed, NWG, Tony, Niang and we add #23... they give Green and #28 (assuming someone is there that they like I guess). Adds some wing depth and forces us to get a better backup center.

That seems very reasonable.

Ed Davis - $5
Bradley - $3.54
Niang - $1.78
NWG - $1.52
TOTAL: $11.84

Danny Green: $15.37

If we had to, we could include Tucker ($1.52).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Danny Green really fell off a cliff last year. He was great in Toronto, but his percentages were ghastly in LA. Are we sure that this was situational, or is the fact that he's 33 now relevant? I'd hope DL would have a good sense of that before we cashed in on him.

Did he... played 25 minutes a night on the best team in the league... they were better with him on the court than off the court.

They were +16.2 better with him on the court in the playoffs even though his shot wasn't great.

He's slowed down but he's still really useful for 20 minutes a night.