I agree. But the second Lakers did that trade every one knew they would win titles with that roster. But if Cousins is a bust Jazz would be setback for a long time. If Jazz did manage to trade up to get Cousins that would be a good sign how much they like Cousins though. Jazz never gamble.
Trading up to the 5/6 slot
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I agree. But the second Lakers did that trade every one knew they would win titles with that roster. But if Cousins is a bust Jazz would be setback for a long time. If Jazz did manage to trade up to get Cousins that would be a good sign how much they like Cousins though. Jazz never gamble.
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How would the Jazz be set back for a long time?
If they have to trade away future first round picks. If he's a bust they might be lottery picks. But seems like most teams make the picks lottery protected.
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Chad Feldheimer
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Well maybe I'm wrong. But Jazz will have to give up quite a lot to move up to get him. For sure the #9 pick and players. Will depend on how much Jazz have to give up to get him.
Gyp Rosetti
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Let's say to move up to #5, we trade the #9, the Memphis pick, Koufos (or Fes is a S&T) and a 2013 1st rounder. In reality, how much are we really losing? I'm not sure it's enough to move up to #5. I feel like we'd have to add in a little more. Maybe a 2nd rounder. But still, what are we really losing? Our core would be:
Williams-Price-Gaines?
Matthews
AK-Miles
Millsap
Cousins-Okur-Fes/Koufos
And who knows, we could still re-sign Booze and/or Korver, bite the bullet on the LT for another year (and possibly try to trade AK at the deadline), and be financially well-off next summer. And we'd still have a 1st next year and Tomic overseas.
Williams-Price-Gaines?
Matthews
AK-Miles
Millsap
Cousins-Okur-Fes/Koufos
And who knows, we could still re-sign Booze and/or Korver, bite the bullet on the LT for another year (and possibly try to trade AK at the deadline), and be financially well-off next summer. And we'd still have a 1st next year and Tomic overseas.
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Dunno why so many people are against Cousins. IMO even if he doesn't work out, he'll be at least as good as Andrew Bynum.
Chad Feldheimer
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If he were going to be as good as Bynum he would go #1 for sure.
I think Cousins will end up being like Dampier or Kendrick Perkins.
Not very good comparisons IMO. Cousins is already way, way, way more skilled offensively than either of those guys will ever be. I think Al Jefferson is a far better comparison.
NAOS
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I'd happily throw my chips into the center on most scenarios that brought the Jazz up to #5, but only if that nets them COUSINS. I wouldn't throw that many assets at MONROE. Seriously, between Tomic, KK2, Memphis pick, our future 1sts (even unprotected), CJ (but if he is traded you have to bring back Korver) there has got to be a deal that Sacramento would listen to.
Then, you S&T Boozer for Beasley.
DWill, Price, Gaines/Randle
Matthews, CJ, Korver (?)
AK, Beasley
Millsap, Beasley, AK
Cousins, Fes, Memo (hopefully Memo doesn't see more than 18 minutes a night in this scenario).
If you can't get Cousins, then I think you stay at #9 and select either Henry or George, and then bite the bullet for 1 year and sign Boozer. Both of these wings have the potential to be all-star mega-athletic wings that the Jazz cannot get via free agency. In this scenario you pray that Fes and KK2 can deliver quality minutes this year while you try to pry J Priz off of the Blazers or get any other center in a deal that sends Millsap...quality trade bait.
Then, you S&T Boozer for Beasley.
DWill, Price, Gaines/Randle
Matthews, CJ, Korver (?)
AK, Beasley
Millsap, Beasley, AK
Cousins, Fes, Memo (hopefully Memo doesn't see more than 18 minutes a night in this scenario).
If you can't get Cousins, then I think you stay at #9 and select either Henry or George, and then bite the bullet for 1 year and sign Boozer. Both of these wings have the potential to be all-star mega-athletic wings that the Jazz cannot get via free agency. In this scenario you pray that Fes and KK2 can deliver quality minutes this year while you try to pry J Priz off of the Blazers or get any other center in a deal that sends Millsap...quality trade bait.