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Trey Burke is 2nd in scoring among sophomores

As much as he has seemed to improve some in recent weeks, we really need to take a step back and see.

1) More shot attempts than points is historically awful especially when you take as many shots as he does despite being a point guard
2) He's an awful defender

So what's to like? He knows how to run a team? But does he really? He takes sooooo many shots.

On the Jazz right now, Hayward runs the offense, and when he's on the bench, Joe Ingles runs it.
 
He has good Assists/TO ratio. Probably the most important stat for a PG. He is an ok passer I guess? Scoring and defense is really important too and he needs to improve that as well.

That's because he gives it up to Hayward to create, and sits outside waiting for someone to kick out to him so he can shoot. If you count all his missed shots that the Jazz don't recover as turnovers, then his ratio isn't so good.
 
Yeah because they can create better than our "point guard." That's how pathetically bad Burke is.

I know I haven't seen many games this season but this is one thing that stands out among all the games I have been able to watch. Everyone has their ups and downs but Burke is consistently bad at doing point guard things. He drives to the basket ignoring open team mates on the wings, he takes ill-advised jumpers with plenty of time left on the clock, and it seems he likes to spot up and jack up shots more than actually run the offense.

Also, another point of consistency is Gobert's motor. That kid just goes, regardless of situation, who he is facing, whether he comes off the bench or starts. I wish everyone played like he does. In the games I have seen he rarely is out of the play and never takes plays off. Fun to watch for sure. And wow is he long. Not sure which game it was but it was awesome to see him take one step to cross the entire key at an angle to block a dunk from behind. Go go Gobert arms!
 
I know I haven't seen many games this season but this is one thing that stands out among all the games I have been able to watch. Everyone has their ups and downs but Burke is consistently bad at doing point guard things. He drives to the basket ignoring open team mates on the wings, he takes ill-advised jumpers with plenty of time left on the clock, and it seems he likes to spot up and jack up shots more than actually run the offense.

Also, another point of consistency is Gobert's motor. That kid just goes, regardless of situation, who he is facing, whether he comes off the bench or starts. I wish everyone played like he does. In the games I have seen he rarely is out of the play and never takes plays off. Fun to watch for sure. And wow is he long. Not sure which game it was but it was awesome to see him take one step to cross the entire key at an angle to block a dunk from behind. Go go Gobert arms!
Pretty good assessment on both players.

I don't think trey is quite as bad as he is made out to be, but he definitely is not good. He well make an ok back up imo
 
Pretty good assessment on both players.

I don't think trey is quite as bad as he is made out to be, but he definitely is not good. He well make an ok back up imo

I have criticized Trey quite a bit and doubt he is our long term PG. That said, it occurred to me last night that actually he might be the best PG we have had since DWill? Am I wrong about that? Of course, it has been a very sad set of PGs we have seen since then.
 
and he's never going to lead a winning team the way he plays and with his physical limitations unfortunately. As an example his lack of basic understanding of when to pass on a fast break is staggeringly bad for a 1

Curious to how many Jazz games you catch down under mate to be able to make this "example"
 
Pretty good assessment on both players.

I don't think trey is quite as bad as he is made out to be, but he definitely is not good. He well make an ok back up imo

I agree. He is playing more as a combo guard at this point. Pair him with future 6th MOY Burks and you could have something pretty solid off the bench. The Burkeseses.
 
This feels like a good time to bump my posts from last season preaching cautiousness when people were pointing to Trey's lack of turnovers last season and predicting great things.
 
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