Trey Burke is my new whipping boy

[wreckspecs]

In all honesty, I hope that they keep him in the starting lineup for the rest of the season.

A.) His trade value will be increased if the Jazz are more successful down the stretch. Winning makes everything look better, and there's more winning from this group down the road. Plus, I think that a trade on Draft Day might be more valuable than one at the upcoming deadline.

B.) Dante Exum is NOT ready to start and it makes no sense to burn assets trying to get a starting level point guard to replace Burke, only to be a placeholder until Dante is ready. Might as well just keep Burke until you can get something for him, or until Dante is ready to start.

C.) Every single young player (including Burke) has shown development and improvement under Quin Snyder. I fully expect Trey (who I've never been a big fan of) to continue to improve. I hoping that more minutes for Dante down the stretch will really push Trey to elevate his game and force him to play better defense and make better decisions.

D.) Decisions this year should not be knee jerk reactions to losing games. Development and improvement are the key goals. Trey needs to play to learn and he needs to learn to get better. I have faith in Snyder, and I want Trey to do well. That means patience on my part.

I agree with pretty much all of this.

At this stage, we could either watch Trey play crappy or Dante play crappy as neither would be a "top starter" in the league now. It isn't very likely Trey ever will be, but that being said, he probably will make a fantastic bench player in a few years. He's careful with the ball, can make a big shot every once in a while, and will certainly get better with shot selection in general. I don't think you can whip him for being what he is now, and trading him on his rookie contract now for another eventual whipping boy won't make things any better.

 

[svenguru]

Get that pile of turd out of here..

Stoping shooting you stupid MF.

36 percent. This is what he is.

Although I don't feel quite so strongly , time is running out on him. Do people realize he has yet to average even 40% shooting for 1 month in his career thus far. I have him a pass because very few rookie point guards shoot a good percentage but things are not improving. Iwould love to know his shooting % on uncontested jumpers because it seems like he misses an amazing number of wide open jumpers

 

[Coach Ellis]

Although I don't feel quite so strongly , time is running out on him. Do people realize he has yet to average even 40% shooting for 1 month in his career thus far. I have him a pass because very few rookie point guards shoot a good percentage but things are not improving. Iwould love to know his shooting % on uncontested jumpers because it seems like he misses an amazing number of wide open jumpers

Considering how much DeMarre Carroll improved as a shooter under Snyder's coaching, I'm willing to back off and give him a chance to elevate his game. If he could just shoot better, or defer more it would have a positive impact on the team and increase his value. I'm okay with the idea of trading him, but nori till Dante is ready to take over (unless there's a great deal to be made and Burke needs to be included to pull it off.)

 

[Park Bites]

sophomore slump...


























never mind he sucks

 

[VINYLONE]

~yawn~

 

[Jazz Insider]

new whippin boy...he gonna pick ur cotton next?

stay racialist bruh.

 

[Hantlers]

I am overly appalled at this overtly racist thread title.

 

[Kyoto]

I called him the new CJ Miles a month ago and almost got chastised for it. Welcome to the club

 

[mellow]

I am overly appalled at this overtly racist thread title.

I don't think it means what you think it means...

A whipping boy was a young boy who was assigned to a young prince and was punished when the prince misbehaved or fell behind in his schooling. Whipping boys were established in the English court during the monarchies of the 15th century and 16th centuries. They were created because of the idea of the divine right of kings, which stated that kings were appointed by God, and implied that no one but the king was worthy of punishing the king’s son. Since the king was rarely around to punish his son when necessary, tutors to the young prince found it extremely difficult to enforce rules or learning.

Whipping boys were generally of high status, and were educated with the prince from birth. Because the prince and whipping boy grew up together they usually formed a strong emotional bond, especially since the prince usually did not have playmates as other children would have had. The strong bond that developed between a prince and his whipping boy dramatically increased the effectiveness of using a whipping boy as a form of punishment for a prince. The idea of the whipping boys was that seeing a friend being whipped or beaten for something that he had done wrong would be likely to ensure that the prince would not make the same mistake again.

From mw dictionary...

whipping boy noun
: someone or something that often is blamed for problems caused by other people
1
: a boy formerly educated with a prince and punished in his stead
2
: scapegoat 2

Or am I missing something?

 

[Hantlers]

I don't think it means what you think it means...

A whipping boy was a young boy who was assigned to a young prince and was punished when the prince misbehaved or fell behind in his schooling. Whipping boys were established in the English court during the monarchies of the 15th century and 16th centuries. They were created because of the idea of the divine right of kings, which stated that kings were appointed by God, and implied that no one but the king was worthy of punishing the king’s son. Since the king was rarely around to punish his son when necessary, tutors to the young prince found it extremely difficult to enforce rules or learning.


From mw dictionary...

Just let me try to be One_Brow for 5 minutes, ok?

 

[mellow]

Just let me try to be One_Brow for 5 minutes, ok?

So I was missing something. Sorry.

 

[orangello]

I called him the new CJ Miles a month ago and almost got chastised for it. Welcome to the club

Ha! I said he was a wasted draft pick the minute that it happened and I got negged for it quite a bit.


I welcome everyone to the anti-Burke bandwagon. What a wasted draft pick.