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Trump’s Dividing of America

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Archie Moses said:
... but you know, guys like Thriller, Harambe and One Clown will have you thinking I'm alt right cause I think the Portland Antifa are a bunch of larping lil bitches.
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Funny that, of the three names you listed, the one who hasn't called you alt-right is the one whose handle you decided to make fun of.
 
Proposition: there has long been two Americas, and our present struggle represents these two Americas fighting for control of the tone and future of who we are. May be simplistic, but I just want to understand how we got here, and what it represents:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/trump-tweets-two-americas-blake/index.html

In one America, people react with shock when a President issues vile racist tweets against women lawmakers. In the other America, people say nothing.


In one America, people speak out in protest after a President claims that African, Haitian, and Salvadoran immigrants come from "sh**hole" countries. In the other America, people nod in agreement.

In one America, people become outraged when administration officials snatch migrant children from their mothers' arms and detain them for weeks in filthy conditions with no repercussions. In the other America, people remain silent.

And in one America, people condemn a President for describing protestors alongside neo-Nazis as "very fine people." In the other America, people shrug....

....These two Americas have long co-existed.

One is the country represented by the Statue of Liberty, and its invitation to poor and tired immigrants "yearning to breathe free."

The other is the one that virtually wiped out Native Americans, enslaved Africans, excluded Chinese immigrants in the late 19th century and put Japanese Americans in concentration camps.

From the rarified perch of the White House, Trump's racist tweets tap into the id of this other America.

And here's what's so frightening about this: It is not a big stretch to say that when a leader uses the kind of language that Trump uses against minorities, it may increase the chances of violence being used against them.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Every single one was forced. Not one person is forced to leave their homes and be put in camps. Not one...
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I'm not certain how I would respond, as a mother, to a gang telling me my son will be killed if he does not join the gang. But I'd have to do something. I would probably decide I was being forced to move, to escape. And if I am in such a position, and the United States seems like the best destination, by far, I may decide that's where I am going to flee to.

I posted a link to a story describing "two Americas". Within such a context, I'm inclined to interpret many of those arriving at our southern border as refugees. That seems like one America's perspective, and I guess it describes my own.

And there are severe refugee crisis happening all over the world at this time in history. And this one is our refugee crisis.

Another America may instead say these arrivals represent the worst from ****hole countries, build a wall and keep them out. It may be incredibly unfair to imply that one perspective seems based in compassion, and the other in the cyclical anti-immigrant sentiment present throughout our history. But I can't really help that, unless I'm completely off base in describing these two Americas. Nor do I have a ready answer on how to solve this crisis or how to handle the crush of humanity on our southern border.
 
Red said:
Proposition: there has long been two Americas, and our present struggle represents these two Americas fighting for control of the tone and future of who we are. May be simplistic, but I just want to understand how we got here, and what it represents:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/trump-tweets-two-americas-blake/index.html

In one America, people react with shock when a President issues vile racist tweets against women lawmakers. In the other America, people say nothing.


In one America, people speak out in protest after a President claims that African, Haitian, and Salvadoran immigrants come from "sh**hole" countries. In the other America, people nod in agreement.

In one America, people become outraged when administration officials snatch migrant children from their mothers' arms and detain them for weeks in filthy conditions with no repercussions. In the other America, people remain silent.

And in one America, people condemn a President for describing protestors alongside neo-Nazis as "very fine people." In the other America, people shrug....

....These two Americas have long co-existed.

One is the country represented by the Statue of Liberty, and its invitation to poor and tired immigrants "yearning to breathe free."

The other is the one that virtually wiped out Native Americans, enslaved Africans, excluded Chinese immigrants in the late 19th century and put Japanese Americans in concentration camps.

From the rarified perch of the White House, Trump's racist tweets tap into the id of this other America.

And here's what's so frightening about this: It is not a big stretch to say that when a leader uses the kind of language that Trump uses against minorities, it may increase the chances of violence being used against them.
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I would hope that Trump America is in the minority, but it seems that it is increasing in recent years and that having him as President has emboldened them in their noxious and destructive behavior. We need to get him out ASAP.
 
Heathme said:
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None of these opinions by "The Squad" actually started off with any of them saying "America stinks!" Did they? I don't think each started with "America stinks!", and I don't think they hate America. They are on a side that believes America is going in the wrong direction. Sometimes those Americans who stand up and point out what they regard as flaws in need of addressing, do so because they actually love America. Which is not to say conservatives do not love America, but that cartoon, and the president's tweets are deliberately designed to "otherize" those with different opinions. It's a deliberate attempt to say these congresswomen, and anybody who supports them, is un-American. And this is the crux of the problem. The president and his followers would "otherize" not just refugees, but their fellow Americans.

And I can just as easily point out, and I have, that Trump's tweets this past Sunday were as profoundly un-American as it gets. And it's telling that so many foreign leaders have spoken up and pointed out how disgusted they are with Trump's tweets, and how much those tweets diminish both Trump's office and American values. That cartoon is ridiculous in missing the point, and distorting those congresswomen.
 
Is this really the best we can do? Is this kind of cruelty really due to our border patrol not having enough resources? Remind me again how AOC was wrong about these agents?

At a Border Patrol holding facility in El Paso, Texas, an agent told a Honduran family that one parent would be sent to Mexico while the other parent and their three children could stay in the United States, according to the family. The agent turned to the couple's youngest daughter — 3-year-old Sofia, whom they call Sofi — and asked her to make a choice.

"The agent asked her who she wanted to go with, mom or dad," her mother, Tania, told NPR through an interpreter. "And the girl, because she is more attached to me, she said mom. But when they started to take [my husband] away, the girl started to cry. The officer said, 'You said [you want to go] with mom.' "
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Tlaib's comments in context. Clearly she was talking about the calming feeling she gets when she thinks about the sacrifices her Palestinian ancestors made when creating a safe haven for the Jewish survivors of the holocaust.
 
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