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Jazzta said:
At least she’s running. The longer she’s allowed to spread her message of peace the better.
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Right. So she's entrenched within the warmachine, but isn't compromised like all the rest of the Democrats.

Ok, so what part of this is a message of peace?

 
Zombie said:
Right. So she's entrenched within the warmachine, but isn't compromised like all the rest of the Democrats.

Ok, so what part of this is a message of peace?

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The U.S. was in Syria conducting operations, but they wouldn't conduct operations against Al-Qaeda. She wasn't advocating for going into a place we were not already in, she was arguing the strategy we used once we got there.
 
Gameface said:
The U.S. was in Syria conducting operations, but they wouldn't conduct operations against Al-Qaeda. She wasn't advocating for going into a place we were not already in, she was arguing the strategy we used once we got there.
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Ok, I'm not sure that's any different from the positions of any other Democratic candidate.
 
Zombie said:
So has ISIS.
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I won’t argue that. In any event I think we can agree that US foreign policy has been a mess for years now. Maybe, just maybe it’s time to step back and try something different... this interventionist approach isn’t working.
 
Jazzta said:
I won’t argue that. In any event I think we can agree that US foreign policy has been a mess for years now. Maybe, just maybe it’s time to step back and try something different... this interventionist approach isn’t working.
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On that I agree. My point is only that Tulsi Gabbard isn't unique in that regard. There really aren't any "hawk" Democrats running.
 
Zombie said:
On that I agree. My point is only that Tulsi Gabbard isn't unique in that regard. There really aren't any "hawk" Democrats running.
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My support will go to the most “hawkish” then, with undeniably a more sensical approach to foreign policy than the current POTUS has.
 
Zombie said:
Ok, I'm not sure that's any different from the positions of any other Democratic candidate.
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The difference is that she's strongly opposed to regime change type interventionism.

I'm not a Gabbard supporter and I don't really know a lot about her to be honest. I just think the accusation that she's an asset of Russia or that she panders to white nationalists is uncalled for. I mean if there's evidence that she has courted white nationalists specifically, besides just sharing one of their views about isolationism, or that she is working with Russia besides just advocating for a non-interventionist foreign policy which Russia would like to see the U.S. adopt I'm all ears.
 
Gameface said:
The difference is that she's strongly opposed to regime change type interventionism.

I'm not a Gabbard supporter and I don't really know a lot about her to be honest. I just think the accusation that she's an asset of Russia or that she panders to white nationalists is uncalled for. I mean if there's evidence that she has courted white nationalists specifically, besides just sharing one of their views about isolationism, or that she is working with Russia besides just advocating for a non-interventionist foreign policy which Russia would like to see the U.S. adopt I'm all ears.
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This. Show me evidence and I have no problem taking back my support for her. Documented evidence, not just words coming from a political opponent, from Hillary nonetheless..
 
Gameface said:
The difference is that she's strongly opposed to regime change type interventionism.
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Is that a difference? I'm fairly certain that's the standard Democratic candidate position.
Gameface said:
I'm not a Gabbard supporter and I don't really know a lot about her to be honest. I just think the accusation that she's an asset of Russia or that she panders to white nationalists is uncalled for. I mean if there's evidence that she has courted white nationalists specifically, besides just sharing one of their views about isolationism, or that she is working with Russia besides just advocating for a non-interventionist foreign policy which Russia would like to see the U.S. adopt I'm all ears.
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This I largely agree with. I do have questions regarding why she criticizes US foreign policy, while at the same time courting Modi in India, acting as an Assad apologist, and downplaying Russian meddling in our election. But those concerns don't merit an accusation that she's a Russian asset, I agree.

I just think there's more to the story regarding her foreign policy views than Jazzta is making out.
 
Zombie said:
Is that a difference? I'm fairly certain that's the standard Democratic candidate position.


This I largely agree with. I do have questions regarding why she criticizes US foreign policy, while at the same time courting Modi in India, acting as an Assad apologist, and downplaying Russian meddling in our election. But those concerns don't merit an accusation that she's a Russian asset, I agree.

I just think there's more to the story regarding her foreign policy views than Jazzta is making out.
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Yeah. I haven't read much about it but I guess she has refused to condemn Assad and I'm curious as to why. Seems easy enough to say that he's crossed the line several times.
 
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