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Trump with slight lead nine weeks out (CNN Poll)

Joe Bagadonuts said:
Has she brainwashed half the nation or something? Did large numbers of American's simply forget what ethics are?
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To me, brainwashed = believing Trump to be more ethical than Hillary. This election isn't about large numbers of people supporting Hillary Clinton. It's about choosing the lesser of 2 evils, more so than most elections.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
To me, brainwashed = believing Trump to be more ethical than Hillary. This election isn't about large numbers of people supporting Hillary Clinton. It's about choosing the lesser of 2 evils, more so than most elections.
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good post.

More subtly, I think 'brainwashed' means that you think you have a right to vote your conscience. Simply put, you have a right to vote for one of the available options; the 'conscience' argument has come to us via propaganda.
 
NAOS said:
part of what I'm implying here is that my snipes aren't "out of nowhere". And, fwiw, he seems to be making up a lot of character slandering stuff against another poster; I'm not sure how it makes any other kind of sense given the evidence at his disposal. Maybe I missed something, but -- at best -- he's being very ungenerous with somebody in a tough spot, and I know he can take a little hit for the sake of JFC balance.

Whatever. It's nothing I haven't seen you do a hundred times. I'm being sincere here: it's cool that you're following a different path. Mine is a less measured one around JFC.... too much measuring in most of my other communicative contexts.
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Character slander? I think it was pretty obvious the whole thing was a hypothetical joke.

Because you know the whole "WC has a baby thing" is a hypothetical to prove that government assistance programs are necessary and not just for "lazy" people.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Character slander? I think it was pretty obvious the whole thing was a hypothetical joke.

Because you know the whole "WC has a baby thing" is a hypothetical to prove that government assistance programs are necessary and not just for "lazy" people.
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Yeah, pretty much this. There's no point in getting upset when someone makes a joke about something that isn't true or didn't happen.

Doesn't change the fact that Cy is a dick and takes the opposite side of arguments for no reason other than to argue (sometimes).
 
Scat said:
Interestingly, Trump leads by a substantial margin among independents.
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Lol.

Trump supporters when polls show Hillary ahead: "Polls are fixed by liberal media and can't be trusted."

Trump supporters when they find one that says Trump is ahead: "Hey guys, did you see the polls? Trump is winning!"
 
Red said:
In fact, more then half the electorate dislike both Clinton and Trump. Trump is ahead in that respect, but barely. It's likely that some, certainly not all, of the electorate simply do not want to put in office the candidate most preferred by the alt right and their ilk. Like myself, they may feel that is the option that poses more danger, or strikes them as the more undesirable option. You can certainly say that segment of the electorate is brainwashed, if that's the only way you can explain the situation in a way that makes sense to you, but you would be mistaken in doing that. I had asked you a question, over in the Never Trump thread. I asked is it possible you find both unqualified, but would not be disappointed if Trump won, relieved even, and is it possible I find both unqualified, but would not be disappointed, relieved even, if Clinton won. I indicated the latter does apply to me, although I probably lied, lol. I don't find her as unqualified as him. Although you did not answer at the time, not a problem, I do the same I'm sure, I do think you will be relieved if Trump wins.
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Sorry if I overlooked your previous question. I cannot imagine feeling good about either of them winning. Both are so flawed that I believe the only solution is looking elsewhere. Only one other candidate has a shot. Gary Johnson isn't a candidate to get excited about, but he's not one to be feared either. The only way this happens is for massive numbers of good people who are currently using your logic of voting for the lesser of two evils to say, "Wait a second. I cannot in good conscience vote for either of those slime balls. I've got to try something else."
 
So couple weeks ago I went to Seattle and drove through Washington state, Olympic peninsula, near Columbia river to Portland. Every little town, village, city you name it had tons of Trump campaign adds and contrary I did not see a single Clinton add. How do you think most of regular Joes in those areas are going to vote? Even speaking to few people in bars or hotels it looked like everybody there is set for Trump to win. I just can imagine how popular Trump is in southern states.
 
MVP said:
So couple weeks ago I went to Seattle and drove through Washington state, Olympic peninsula, near Columbia river to Portland. Every little town, village, city you name it had tons of Trump campaign adds and contrary I did not see a single Clinton add. How do you think most of regular Joes in those areas are going to vote? Even speaking to few people in bars or hotels it looked like everybody there is set for Trump to win. I just can imagine how popular Trump is in southern states.
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In my neck of the woods he is extremely popular. Almost any criticism, no matter how well presented, justified or small goes unchallenged. Usually with personal insults and propaganda. Like "You're and idiot and illegal immigrants bankrupt the state" with nothing to back it up.
 
MVP said:
So couple weeks ago I went to Seattle and drove through Washington state, Olympic peninsula, near Columbia river to Portland. Every little town, village, city you name it had tons of Trump campaign adds and contrary I did not see a single Clinton add. How do you think most of regular Joes in those areas are going to vote? Even speaking to few people in bars or hotels it looked like everybody there is set for Trump to win. I just can imagine how popular Trump is in southern states.
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Anecdotal evidence aside, it is difficult for Trump to win. National polls are kind of irrelevant. The important thing is polls in swing states. Trump would have to win a whole bunch of swing states that he's currently losing for him to be elected.

But there are still 2 months until the elections, and anything can happen. But as things stand, chances are Clinton wins.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
To me, brainwashed = believing Trump to be more ethical than Hillary. This election isn't about large numbers of people supporting Hillary Clinton. It's about choosing the lesser of 2 evils, more so than most elections.
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But we've all been brainwashed into thinking those are the only two choices. I get why people think that's the case, but wouldn't it be cool if the masses revolted?

BTW, your sig is sort of odd. Do they pay people for being sexual predators and victims at Fox?
 
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