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Trump's Coup Attempt

Don’t get me mixed in with this troll. This moron tries to beef with everyone here. He’s a sad bored person who gets his entertainment from stirring the pot.
My bad. I wasn't trying to "both sides" you two. I was just saying that I didn't want AI-O-Meter to use my posts as if they were in support of his criticisms against you, because I didn't intend them that way and I don't think they actually made the point he was trying to push.
 
My bad. I wasn't trying to "both sides" you two. I was just saying that I didn't want AI-O-Meter to use my posts as if they were in support of his criticisms against you, because I didn't intend them that way and I don't think they actually made the point he was trying to push.
Understood.

Thank you.

He likes to distort what others say to personally attack those he’s trying to troll. Then he’ll ignore honest attempts to correct distortions (since most of us assume he’s made a mistake or misunderstood, not purposely distorted or lied). It’s best to just ignore him.
 
@Red see this? Can democracy survive when 30-40 percent of the electorate views authoritarianism as being more attractive than democracy?
I do not know. I have wondered, since I believe conservatives and liberals respond to the world at large in fundamentally different ways, if favoring authoritarianism is more prevalent among conservatives. I also believe we might help ourselves if we simply recognize part of our problems, maybe particularly in the culture wars, is due to differences in how we respond to the world at large. Let’s get to know what makes us different better, and we might fight less.

But, and anyway, it’s a global thing in Western democracies:


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Recent events have raised concern about potential threats to democracy within Western countries. If Western citizens who are open to authoritarian governance share a common set of political preferences, then authoritarian elites can attract mass coalitions that are willing to subvert democracy to achieve shared ideological goals. With this in mind, we explored which ideological groups are most open to authoritarian governance within Western general publics using World Values Survey data from fourteen Western democracies and three recent Latin American Public Opinion Project samples from Canada and the United States. Two key findings emerged. First, cultural conservatism was consistently associated with openness to authoritarian governance. Second, within half of the democracies studied, including all of the English-speaking ones, Western citizens holding a protection-based attitude package—combining cultural conservatism with left economic attitudes—were the most open to authoritarian governance. Within other countries, protection-based and consistently right-wing attitude packages were associated with similarly high levels of openness to authoritarian governance. We discuss implications for radical right populism and the possibility of splitting potentially undemocratic mass coalitions along economic lines.


“Nearly half of Republicans say they would prefer “strong, unelected leaders” over “weak elected ones,” according to a September Axios-Ipsos poll, and around 55 percent of Republicans say defending the “traditional” way of life by force may soon become necessary. About 61 percent of Republicans don’t believe the results of the 2020 presidential election.”.

“To call a party democratic—committed to democracy—they’ve got to do three basic things: They have to unambiguously accept election results, they have to unambiguously renounce violence, and they have to consistently and unambiguously break with extremists or antidemocratic forces,” says Steve Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard University. “I think the Republican Party now fails these three basic tests.”

And, in a word, THIS!!:

““The problem is our incentives—the Electoral College, the Supreme Court, the fact that sparsely populated territories are dramatically overrepresented in our electoral system—allows the Republicans to wield a lot of power without winning national majorities,” Levitsky says. “If the Republican Party actually had to win over 50 percent of the national vote to control the Senate, to control the presidency, to control the Supreme Court, you would not see them behaving the way they’re behaving. They would never win.”

 
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This is a bit of a read but it’s definitely worth it. It’s a warning to us normal people who want to preserve our democracy. There are too many similarities to ignore, a complacent moderate right too obsessed with preserving their own power and hating their enemies that they think they can control the psychopath they empowered. A far left that thinks the right placing a psychopath in power will after a moment of authoritarianism and chaos, benefit them. And a moderate left that thinks laws and process will constrain the psychopath. They were all wrong and empowering a psychopath can lead to just disastrous outcomes.

I get that some here might like conservative judges and tax cuts, but is that really worth putting Trump back into power?

 
It’s an endless grift of the rubes. She wouldn’t be pretending she was a redneck if she didn’t think it would sell. No one has more contempt for the rubes of rural America than Trump and his family.


View: https://youtu.be/KQML0_YASCI?feature=shared

Except for the people that insist on categorizing them as "rubes". At least the Trumps pretend they are real people and don't just dismiss them. That's part of why he gets their vote.
 
Just a reminder on how insane The Big Lie has become:


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So when people on here whine about how they and their fellow trumpers “feel” like they can’t trust election results, it’s either because:

1. They’re trolling.
2. They’re dumber than rocks and don’t know what they’re talking about.
Also people forget that trump won close states in 2020 as well. Why aren't they being included in these discussions and concerns?

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Also people forget that trump won close states in 2020 as well. Why aren't they being included in these discussions and concerns?

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No no no, those are the states that got it right. Obviously only states Trump lost had any fraud. Rampant fraud. The most fraud in history. But the state right next door, that he won by the same thin margin, had no fraud at all. None. Not a single questionable ballot. All good!
 
Do any of the “good” conservatives on this site wanna weigh in on this? I mean, you demand to be treated with respect and not labeled cultists, fascists, or Trump enablers. So here’s your chance!

What do you think of Trump describing immigrants as “animals?” Will you vote for Biden instead? Or do taxes and conservative judges justify this?

Imagine the outrage if Biden, Clinton, or Obama described rural whites as animals. Or vermin. Or accused them of poisoning the nation’s blood. Seems kinda fascist, right?


View: https://x.com/sykescharlie/status/1775243660646404185?s=46
 
Do any of the “good” conservatives on this site wanna weigh in on this? I mean, you demand to be treated with respect and not labeled cultists, fascists, or Trump enablers. So here’s your chance!

What do you think of Trump describing immigrants as “animals?” Will you vote for Biden instead? Or do taxes and conservative judges justify this?

Imagine the outrage if Biden, Clinton, or Obama described rural whites as animals. Or vermin. Or accused them of poisoning the nation’s blood. Seems kinda fascist, right?


View: https://x.com/sykescharlie/status/1775243660646404185?s=46

Since the man is always projecting, I guess we should expect him to cancel elections in 2028, if he wins in 2024. I think that’s how you translate Trump Speak.


View: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1775246126364422496
 
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