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Tweets from Camp, Thursday Dec 15

jimmy eat jazz said:
Well, technically, the facts don't change, but rather our understanding of the facts.

The capacity for critical self-reflection is not a human character trait that one finds in abundance.
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Do what? Dude, facts change. Right now if someone asks me if I find it hot or cold outside, I'd say cold. Ask me the exact same question in August. It doesn't take critical self-reflection to recognize changes in one's environment, for example.
 
PKM said:
Do what? Dude, facts change. Right now if someone asks me if I find it hot or cold outside, I'd say cold. Ask me the exact same question in August. It doesn't take critical self-reflection to recognize changes in one's environment, for example.
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One mans cold is another mans warm. your example is merely opinion. The only fact would be that the temp is say, 68 degrees. That fact that it is 68 degrees doesn't change, and the fact that temperature is variable isn't a change in facts. What is changing is merely your opinion on whether that temperature is warm or cool.
 
mellow said:
I think Josh will provide alot of learning to those young guys, veteran tricks and all so I'm not too concerned (yet) about the minutes he might take. I am more troubled/concerned about hearing from Jazz camp that the Jazz don't have a legitimate 3 without howard. What the heck is Hayward? A SG? Then why draft Alec Burks? And now Kanter is shrinking into a pf?

5 picks in 2 years get the Jazz 2 shooting gaurds and 3 powerforwards?
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This is what happens when you are picking solely according to the "BPA" philosophy.
 
Jazz4ever said:
If there was a SF that looked better than Burks the Jazz would have taken him at 12. You had Marcus Morris, Chris Singleton, and Kawhi Leonard. None of them have close to the talent or potential Burks has.
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Agree.
Jazz FO can't win. They draft for need and come up with guys like Borchardt, Snyder, Morris, etc. Now they draft who they feel are the BPA's and still get blasted by some. Right now, I give KOC plenty of latitude before I criticize him. Looks like I was dead wrong about Hayward. Had I been at the ESA, I may have been one of those booing the pick. And we now know KOC was trying to maneuver up to get Favors - and got him with a great trade for DWill. Given the comical way the Paul trade went down, do you think Jazz would have been able to get great value for Deron right now?

I can't say I'm sold on Kanter...yet...but I am 100% behind the Burks pick. SF MAY have been a bigger immediate need, but the Jazz also need guards. CJ is a FA after this season, Watson was unsigned at the time - and getting long in the tooth. Jazz have NEVER had a player like Burks, well, not unless you count Price;-) Having a combo guard, and one who can create his own shot, is going to be invaluable. Get a SF in the draft and the Jazz will be set at the 2/3. Hayward can swing between both spots. So Kanter, Favors and Millsap or Jefferson at the 4/5; Burks, Hayward and draft pick/trade at the 2/3. If they get a good pick, maybe the luxury is there to keep both Jefferson AND Millsap, with Paul being able to play some big 3. Jazz could very well have one of the deepest and most flexible lineups in the league.
 
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