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OK -- this seems to be the heart of the disagreement. Guess we'll see how it all turns out.
Most of it... yes. Non-shooting center is the least flexible player type in the league imo... so not sure we will ever see how it plays out. See Bradley, Tony.
 
Most of it... yes. Non-shooting center is the least flexible player type in the league imo... so not sure we will ever see how it plays out. See Bradley, Tony.
And if there was a non-shooting center I really liked in the draft I would take one... but not if I already had an All-star who is a non-shooting center... and not if I planned to allocate my MLE to another non-shooting center.

We drafted a third string QB and we got Aaron Rogers on the roster and issues at the skill positions in the next few years. Not a great use of an asset imo.
 
And if there was a non-shooting center I really liked in the draft I would take one... but not if I already had an All-star who is a non-shooting center... and not if I planned to allocate my MLE to another non-shooting center.

We drafted a third string QB and we got Aaron Rogers on the roster and issues at the skill positions in the next few years. Not a great use of an asset imo.
Analytics are a great tool but if you use just that tool only, there are probably going to be a lot of busts.
 
And if there was a non-shooting center I really liked in the draft I would take one... but not if I already had an All-star who is a non-shooting center... and not if I planned to allocate my MLE to another non-shooting center.

We drafted a third string QB and we got Aaron Rogers on the roster and issues at the skill positions in the next few years. Not a great use of an asset imo.
We risk re-litigating this all over again. I see your point and think it's possible you're right. It's just clear to me that the Jazz have differing priorities than you do when it comes to centers.
 
We risk re-litigating this all over again. I see your point and think it's possible you're right. It's just clear to me that the Jazz have differing priorities than you do when it comes to centers.
I mean I proved em wrong once. Definitely not trying to convince you of anything but I think its fairly obvious that prioritizing non-shooting bigs over wings and guards is an oversight.

At this point it isn't even a fair argument to have because we don't know the seriousness of his injury. It may be something that derails his career.
 
I mean I proved em wrong once. Definitely not trying to convince you of anything but I think its fairly obvious that prioritizing non-shooting bigs over wings and guards is an oversight.

At this point it isn't even a fair argument to have because we don't know the seriousness of his injury. It may be something that derails his career.
If they are being straight about his injury it will heal. It is the same injury Hughes had and he was out for awhile.
 
Does anyone really believe Udoka was the #2 guy on their entire draft board? I mean I guess it’s plausible, I can’t think of any other reason why the jazz would draft him in the first round.
He could easily have been '#2 among the guys we think might still be on the board'.
 
what i like about Bane is his potential to be a three level shooter(catch and shoot, shoot off the bounce, shoot off the dribble), which brings the much needed variety to this current Jazz 3pt oriented offense

We have way too many spot shooters that are only effective when they are shooting from a static positions, which makes it easy for the opponents to set up counter schemes.

yeah, we can try multiple drive and kicks until we find the open man but it's not like Royce/Bojan/Niang are that good of dribble&drive threat to begin with. More often than not their driving to the basket have led to ugly turnovers because i'm sure it is on every opponent's scouting report to let them put the ball on the floor.

Imagine how much more unstoppable we can be if we add a dynamic shooter who is much more comfortable at dribble&drive and can launch shots from anywhere at anytime to our offense.
 
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And if there was a non-shooting center I really liked in the draft I would take one... but not if I already had an All-star who is a non-shooting center... and not if I planned to allocate my MLE to another non-shooting center.

We drafted a third string QB and we got Aaron Rogers on the roster and issues at the skill positions in the next few years. Not a great use of an asset imo.
Unlike QBs, centers take a while to develop. This is Gobert's 8th season. By the time we know what Azuibuke's potential is, Favor's contract will be over, and he will be 33(?).
 
yeah, we definitely gave up on Bradley too soon because centers take a long time to develop. Should have resigned him to a max deal because we don't wanna miss out on the next Embiid.
 
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