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un educated jazz fans piss me off

green said:
Yeah, because losing an end of the bench player will hurt Utah so bad...
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He had his moments. I just fear Jefferson starting or getting good minutes. That would be the worst.
Imagine this starting lineup for a sec:

Veteran PG
Hayward
Jefferson
Favors
Biedrens

Need a puke bag?
 
Weezur said:
He had his moments. I just fear Jefferson starting or getting good minutes. That would be the worst.
Imagine this starting lineup for a sec:

Veteran PG
Hayward
Jefferson
Favors
Biedrens

Need a puke bag?
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There is no way this happens. No way. Lindsay has proven over the last few weeks that he is smarter than this.
 
crater77 said:
I love jazzfanz.com your all die hards, get the NBA and how things work. I've learned a ton by trolling this site. But I go to KSL and read the comments based on their story of this trade and you get all of the people that really think we did this trade for GSW players. They are pissed. They just don't get that this was a mad genius move and sets us up for the future. Typical fan that just wants wins... now. Happy with first round exits. I for one am stoked that the Jazz finally have a plan for the future and are looking at the big picture. Contending for a title in a few or bust.
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Ah... so you're the Ultimate Troll... nice to meet you!!
 
I'm still going to follow the Jazz. I'd love for the team to develop the young players, but that should have happened last season, or the season before that. The FO basically had to take away all the previous players and any chance the team had of making the playoffs before they could "develop" the young players.

I think the Jazz will have a hard time convincing Favors and Hayward to stick around after this season. Maybe not. Maybe all the playing time will actually encourage the team to stay together. I'm excited for Burke, I'm excited about the prospect of the young players. But I still hate losing. And I'll never get on board with tanking as a strategy.

I don't want to be mediocre I want to win a championship. How do these moves secure it? It makes us a lottery team. It doesn't make us a championship team. I guess we can be the Cavs and just be a lottery team year after year who wants that?
 
Urzajazz said:
I'm still going to follow the Jazz. I'd love for the team to develop the young players, but that should have happened last season, or the season before that. The FO basically had to take away all the previous players and any chance the team had of making the playoffs before they could "develop" the young players.

I think the Jazz will have a hard time convincing Favors and Hayward to stick around after this season. Maybe not. Maybe all the playing time will actually encourage the team to stay together. I'm excited for Burke, I'm excited about the prospect of the young players. But I still hate losing. And I'll never get on board with tanking as a strategy.
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The Jazz don't have to any convincing to keep Favors and Hayward. They just have to match whatever contract they sign. Pretty simple stuff.
 
green said:
The Jazz don't have to any convincing to keep Favors and Hayward. They just have to match whatever contract they sign. Pretty simple stuff.
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Which means will have to match a poison contract that eats up any of our extra cap space that season just to keep the players around? (I don't know anything about contracts, but I remember when Portland signed Millsap to heavily front loaded contract and we had to match it because he was a RFA, what is stopping other teams from doing this to us again?)
 
Weezur said:
Lindsey's smart. Hopefully Ty catches up, cause he controls lineups.
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Lindsay hires/fires Ty at the end of the year. I'm sure Lindsay spoke to Ty about what he expects from Ty for Ty to keep his job, and I bet wins and losses never once came up.
 
Urzajazz said:
Which means will have to match a poison contract that eats up any of our extra cap space that season just to keep the players around? (I don't know anything about contracts, but I remember when Portland signed Millsap to heavily front loaded contract and we had to match it because he was a RFA, what is stopping other teams from doing this to us again?)
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30 million in cap space. A poison contract helps Utah out.
 
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