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Uncle Toms

So according to Jalen Rose an African American is "less black" if they have two parents and were middle class. Which is the term used as "uncle Tom". So Jalen Rose is making fun of Grant Hill because he had both parents and they were educated...........I'm sorry but that is freaking lame. Jalen is an adult and if this how he thinks African Americans should think then that is pathetic.
I would promise to quit the board, if you could tell me (without googling) where the term "Uncle Tom" originated.
 
What is this documentary? This is the first I have heard about any of this.

It's such crap. Anyone trying to fit a stereotype is destined to fail.

I think they're referring to the Fab Five documentary...

But I'll admit to being pretty clueless about the specific references


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Ok, let's squash this one. That is Grant Hill's interpretation of what Jalen Rose meant. That is NOT what Jalen Rose said.



There's an element of class distinction in what Rose is saying but it's not about the middle class at all.

How many "middle class" families do you know that feature one parent who is a four-time All Pro Running Back in the NFL who went to Yale and was frat brothers with George W. Bush and another parent who is a former roommate of a first lady/Senator/Secretary of State? Are you saying it's totally unreasonable to believe a child of that family might have a privileged upbringing?

Resenting some people who seem to have it all is hardly atypical; it's pretty normal. One of my former college roommates was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, went to Harvard law school, and is currently employed as a staff attorney by the NBA Players Association. I'm jealous as hell. And frankly who hasn't been jealous of people that they believe had opportunities and results that they never could have had access to.

Framing Rose's comments as being one of middle class resentment or two-parent household resentment is a little off. Hill's family was a lot closer to the "elite" than they were to being average schmoes.

There's probably also an element of truth to the class argument being made here. The players named in that segment of the documentary were Hill, Laettner and Hurley. First of all, you'll note that only one of the three players listed is black and that player is Hill. Bobby Hurley is basketball royalty, son of one of the most famous coaches ever. Laettner was a media golden boy during that period of time. It's a little understandable that young upstarts would invent reasons why these guys would be the villains of their personal narrative and view class as one of the dividing lenses separating them from one another.

Uncle Tom is an unfortunate term, but the internet lynch mob (to use my own racially loaded term) is being pretty hasty here given the ambiguity of the time-frame of the thought, the cut immediately following that statement, and the total rush to adopt everything about the wronged party's interpretation of the statement that may or may not be totally reasonable.

EDIT: I think Rose's clarification speaks for itself.

https://www.sportsgrid.com/media/ja...-this-duke-recruits-a-certain-type-of-player/

It's pretty explicitly about class. He says he thinks Coach K would recruit his kids and points out that Webber went to the exact same high school as Shane Battier.

I take no exception with Rose's statements. Not bad. Not bad at all.
 
Hopper was my favorite "Uncle Tom".

I am pretty sure you actually have to be black to be an Uncle Tom.

Or at least you have to be of the given racial background to "Uncle Tom" others of the same race.
 
Great, great read. Kudos for posting it.

Definitely a great read. As stated, Wilbon hit it out of the park!

It touched on being black in America and gives you an insight into the culture of black America and the types of conversations, thoughts and feelings that can permeate certain segments. I'll take it a step further and say that it parallels many feelings in other minority groups.
 
Here is Jason Whitlock's take:

Fab Five film fantasy, not documentary

Updated Mar 16, 2011 6:07 PM ET

It was my intention to ignore ESPN’s “The Fab Five” documentary.

I assumed their “legacy” would be framed inaccurately by the doc’s executive producer Jalen Rose, the leader of the Fab Five.

Despite all the hype they've gotten, Michigan's Fab Five have nothing on these sports dynasties.

Earning $125 million in the NBA and transitioning into a TV talking head produces little self-awareness and even fewer qualifications as a documentarian.

Give Rose credit. He talked a major television network and an alleged news organization into allowing him to write his own 90-minute history. We should all be so lucky.

With the help of the Worldwide Leader, Rose took baggy shorts, black socks, bald heads and trash talk and created the illusion the Fab Five were some sort of transcendent, revolutionary freedom fighters cut from the same cloth as Jackie Robinson, Jim Brown, Arthur Ashe and Muhammad Ali.

It’s laughably untrue.

The legacy of the Fab Five is that they were on the cutting edge of America’s unashamed embrace of style over substance.

When Rose ended the documentary waxing about how no one knows the names of the starters on North Carolina’s 1993 national championship team and everyone remembers Rose, Webber, Howard, King and Jackson, it dawned on me the Fab Five were the original Charlie Sheen.

Let me make this clear: I do not dislike the Fab Five. I made my bones as a journalist covering the Fab Five for the Ann Arbor News. I have a strong affinity for Rose, Juwan Howard and Ray Jackson. I have a great deal of respect for Chris Webber, particularly the way he handled the aftermath of the “timeout” and his work as an NBA broadcaster. I never developed any kind of connection with Jimmy King.

But the celebration of this documentary annoys me.

The Fab Five are taking credit for the real accomplishments of John Thompson’s and Patrick Ewing’s Georgetown Hoyas.

It was Thompson’s all-black, Ewing-led teams a decade before the Fab Five that shook the foundation of college basketball, changed the complexion of starting lineups across the country, opened coaching doors that had previously been closed to blacks and paved the way for black sportswriters at major newspapers.

It’s easy to forgive Rose for his lack of self-awareness. It’s America. In this country, self-awareness and common sense are our most rare commodities.

What’s not easy to excuse is the clueless robbery of what Thompson, Ewing, Bill Martin, Reggie Williams, Horace Broadnax and David Wingate accomplished.

They won championships — conference and national. They scared and intimidated the establishment. They were the inner-city black kids who left a legacy of jobs and playing opportunities for other impoverished minorities that exposes the lack of substance in the fads popularized by the Fab Five.

“Hoya Paranoia” is the story that deserves celebration and should serve as a teaching tool. Fab Five is a safe, harmless story celebrating black kids for choosing style over substance.

Rather than participate in the documentary, Public Enemy’s Chuck D should’ve remade “Don’t Believe the Hype” and replaced Elvis with Jalen Rose.

Five super-talented black kids enrolled at a prestigious, white university to play for an inexperienced, piss-poor-at-the-time white coach and, 20 years later, had the audacity to embark on a media tour preaching about black Duke players being Uncle Toms.

Are you kidding me?

Are we really this lost as a people?

Let’s end the facade that Rose’s words about the Duke players are being taken out of context. On Monday, Jimmy King was on ESPN spewing this nonsense.

Last week Webber published this bit of nonsense on his blog.

The Fab Five clearly believe Coach K and Duke didn’t and don’t recruit inner-city black kids, and they believe race/racism/elitism are the driving forces behind the philosophy.

Let’s go back to the Fab Five era and Duke’s philosophy then. Coach K recruited kids who had every intention of staying in school for four years. He recruited kids who had a good chance of competing academically at Duke and could meet the standardized test score qualifications for entrance.

The Fab Five stated it was their intention to win a national championship and turn pro as a group after their sophomore season. Webber, who was recruited by Duke, left Michigan after two years. Rose and Howard left as juniors. Impoverished inner-city kids have good reason to turn pro early. I’m not knocking Webber, Howard and Rose for their decisions. They didn’t fit the Duke profile at the time.

Furthermore, unlike Steve Fisher at the time, Coach K did more than roll the ball on the court. He coached.

The ideal in college basketball is to lead four-year student-athletes to conference and national championships. That’s the goal.

During the three-year run of the Fab Five (one season without Webber), Duke beat Michigan all four times the schools met while winning two ACC titles and one NCAA title. During the same span, Michigan won zero conference or national titles. In addition, Webber’s interactions with booster Ed Martin put the program on probation and caused Michigan to forfeit all its games.

I think Coach K recruited and recruits the right kids for Duke.

It’s ridiculous for Webber to insinuate that Coach K feared the Fab Five were “thugs and killers.”

Coach K probably thought the same thing I thought watching the Fab Five play: They’re immature, arrogant, interested in playing for a coach they could ignore and incapable of putting together the consistent focus and effort necessary to win a conference championship.

Two teams consistently beat the Fab Five — Duke (4-0) and Indiana (4-2).

Let me translate that for you: Structured, disciplined, well-coached teams beat Michigan.

While making money for their white university and allowing their incompetent, white coach to learn on the job, the Fab Five were not man enough to harness the courage and focus to outduel — in their minds — inferior, racist teams.

Now tell me who the sellouts were?

It wasn’t John Thompson, Patrick Ewing or Grant Hill.
 
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