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Updated Jazzfanz Current Players 1st rd: Wes v silesian

Who wins?

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I guess we’ll agree to disagree.

That said, let’s assume Harden is even just average on defense, I have Morris, Ibaka and Gobert behind him.
 
I said this before too but none of my guys have or have had major injury issues.

He has Durant, Irving, Oladipo, and Nurkić all with serious injury histories. That’s 3 starters and a backup and a very problematic issue for him imo.
 
All this injury stuff is silly. Had 4 allstars and lost to a team with Klay and Victor who didn't play all year.

I lost in the first round with two first team all nba players, so my expectations on fan vote are nil. Just vote for Wes, I won the 2021 simulation, that is all I care about.
 
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Wes Mantooth said:
I said this before too but none of my guys have or have had major injury issues.

He has Durant, Irving, Oladipo, and Nurkić all with serious injury histories. That’s 3 starters and a backup and a very problematic issue for him imo.
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Completely agree but thats a tough thing to quantify in a comp like this. Especially considering it was mentioned during the draft that you have to assume all are healthy next season.
 
Gasol Igggy and Ibaka would win the old timer's/ way past peak tournament, hands down.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Most don’t care about benches in this. Hell, Fish didnt even bother sending Wes his bench. Lol
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Just pointing out that when some on my bench are better than (or at least on par with) his starters, it says something. Derozan is All NBA
 
I like Wes's team. You've got a nice high-low combination with Harden and Gobert, and you've got good floor spacers with VV, Morris and Ibaka. On defense, you have two 7-footers and two guys who get after it defensively, while Harden just waits to be handed the ball.
 
Beer said:
Completely agree but thats a tough thing to quantify in a comp like this. Especially considering it was mentioned during the draft that you have to assume all are healthy next season.
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I never said assume all are healthy next year. And assuming that for guys who are chronically hurt would be silly.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I never said assume all are healthy next year. And assuming that for guys who are chronically hurt would be silly.
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I think the easiest and most logical way to look at it would be all players are healthy next year, but rank them how you feel their skills will be diminished after injury. For example, Oladipo looked awful the little time he got this year after coming back. But if you think KD won't be able to post up on the elbow and dominate like he's done his entire career you're crazy. His defense will most certainly slip a bit though.

Also, I'm looking at these like 7 game series not an 82 game season. Cant take potential injury into account in a 7 game series.
 
Wes is smart to play the injury card. The only way he wins is if my guys are in wheel chairs.
 
I like both teams. During the draft, I personally shied away from folks like Oladipo, because it was hard for me to ascertain how well they would be next year. Durant is a great player, but obviously coming off a tough injury. I have not yet voted, it's that close and I keep going back and forth. Another Heineken might help me see with clarity.
 
silesian said:
I don’t think you judge Oladipo based on 300 ish minutes this year. He has offseason to tune up.
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No but his game is almost entirely based on athleticism while KD's is almost entirely based on being longer and more skilled than anyone.
 
Oladipo will be 2 years away from his injury with a long offseason to recover.

even if you did put him you plug DeRozan in and go. My backup wings are better than Wes’s starters. Then fournier.
 
I want to remind y’all that you picked my opponent with Oladipo last year despite the fact that he was going to miss half the season. And Klay was his backup, who never played a minute. Consistency would suggest you give me the W, smile.
 
With Kyrie, DeRozan and KD my 1, 3 and 4 are dominantly better. (Van vleet, Morris ibaka).

Harden > Oladipo but Oladipo is all nba
Gobert > Vuc But Vuc is an all star with much more versatile offensive skills

And my bench is far superior.

vote for Wes!
 
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