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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I do not understand why bullet hates dutch so badly. It's bizarre that he sees it as his duty to monitor all of dutch's posts, even as he begs everyone else to put dutch on their ignore list. I have read some insightful posts from both of them. I have also read less insightful stuff from both of them. Having been accused of all sorts of inaccurate things by bullet myself, I tend to believe dutch when he claims not to be the sort of man bullet claims he is.
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I dislike him mostly because off his poor manners. But additionally, he repeats the same stuff over and over and injects it into threads where it has nothing to do with the conversation. He has shown no interest in an honest dialogue, as he is here to tell us how it is, not to learn or understand anything. He also has no intellectual honesty, stating things as facts that he cannot possibly believe to be true.

Then there are the repeated overtly racist, bigoted and misogynistic comments spanning years.

I had been happily ignoring him. But when you get suspended and can't log in you have no ignore feature, and I was honestly shocked at the stuff he was posting. I was disappointed that so many were still engaging with him. And I was angry that he is being allowed to use a fansite as a propaganda tool for a supremacist ideology, when he almost never engages in fan talk. Oh and that most people who read this site are not registered users and don't have the option to ignore him.

When I finished my suspension I went to his "recent posts" in his profile to scan for a few of the posts I had seen and ran accross a few more that I felt were legitimately report worthy.

I will continue to do that, scan his recent posts and report things that are racist, misogynistic, LGBTQ hate, or supremicist.

I don't think he has the ability to post without crossing those lines, he never has.
 
Archie Moses said:
What do you mean by you believe in nationalism?
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in short i believe in nationalism promotes small government.
and the smaller the government the more liberty people have.

long sotry, what if their is no nationalism, then we get a global government. i dont want people living 5000km away deciding how to live my live. it is easier if government is small and closeby easier to make your wishes known
 
Bulletproof said:
, LGBTQ hate
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funny true story today i met a friend of a cousin of mine at her party, the guy is extremly gay wears makeup and has high heels. we went club/bar hopping.
we took him to a Biker bar, they would not allow him in. i stood up for him. seeing as i knew the doorman bouncers and the manager. but the manager was not there already home asleep. tried to get him in, but the guys had explicit comments from the manager and i could not get him on the phone so we left. i stood up for him. ooh and funny things he knows i thinks gay men should not be allowed to marry gay men, but he is ok with that you wanna know why? because i told him it is my opinion it might be right it might be wrong. but i would never force my opinion on him, so if he finds someone and marry him he is free to do so, and he knows in my book he is not married because marriage is a contract that binds children to the father and isnt about love.

you do not know me, yes i believe certain cultures are greater than others, no culture is perfect. every culture has positives and negatives sometimes the negatives outweigh the positive! i would give examples but you will go cry to the mods. you do not know me!

ooh and by the way nazi stands for national socialism and they implemented 90%+ socialist laws policies and regulations! that is a fact! i hope this triggered you!


have fun! combing through my posts
 
Bulletproof said:
I dislike him mostly because off his poor manners. But additionally, he repeats the same stuff over and over and injects it into threads where it has nothing to do with the conversation. He has shown no interest in an honest dialogue, as he is here to tell us how it is, not to learn or understand anything. He also has no intellectual honesty, stating things as facts that he cannot possibly believe to be true.

Then there are the repeated overtly racist, bigoted and misogynistic comments spanning years.

I had been happily ignoring him. But when you get suspended and can't log in you have no ignore feature, and I was honestly shocked at the stuff he was posting. I was disappointed that so many were still engaging with him. And I was angry that he is being allowed to use a fansite as a propaganda tool for a supremacist ideology, when he almost never engages in fan talk. Oh and that most people who read this site are not registered users and don't have the option to ignore him.

When I finished my suspension I went to his "recent posts" in his profile to scan for a few of the posts I had seen and ran accross a few more that I felt were legitimately report worthy.

I will continue to do that, scan his recent posts and report things that are racist, misogynistic, LGBTQ hate, or supremicist.

I don't think he has the ability to post without crossing those lines, he never has.
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Good thing the world has people like you to protect us... not.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Good thing the world has people like you to protect us... not.
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Why do you make these childish posts intended to antagonize and nothing else?

Dutch is breaking board rules. I think he also ruins what could otherwise be interesting discussions, makes annoying amounts of noise.

All he has to do is not break the board rules and he'll be good. But to be clear, my goal is to get him permanently banned, and it is personal. So yeah, petty on my part, but it is what it is.
 
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I do not understand why bullet hates dutch so badly. It's bizarre that he sees it as his duty to monitor all of dutch's posts, even as he begs everyone else to put dutch on their ignore list. I have read some insightful posts from both of them. I have also read less insightful stuff from both of them. Having been accused of all sorts of inaccurate things by bullet myself, I tend to believe dutch when he claims not to be the sort of man bullet claims he is.
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Lol at not understanding dutchjazzer hate and lol at reading insightful dutchjazzer posts
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Good thing the world has people like you to protect us... not.
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You think bulletproof is trying to protect the world from dutch? You are either really dumb or trolling. Probably both
 
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Bulletproof said:
Why do you make these childish posts intended to antagonise and nothing else?

Dutch is breaking board rules. I think he also ruins what could otherwise be interesting discussions, makes annoying amounts of noise.

All he has to do is not break the board rules and he'll be good. But to be clear, my goal is to get him permanently banned, and it is personal. So yeah, petty on my part, but it is what it is.
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don't you think that is hypocritical? you also break the rules you personally attacked me a few post ago. please don't act a hypocrite! that is also breaking board rules!

you also blamed me for being consistent, now it seems you acting are inconsitent
 
This is gonna sound cheesey af, but who cares. My default, online message board setting is to find things that I disagree with, or bothers me or to react to things I disagree with on every basis. I've been doing a lot of thinking lately, and honestly, it's a poor mindset to have. (I just barely made a post that did this and got to draw-a-line somewhere.)
I know new year's resolutions are cliches and goals don't and shouldn't start on arbitrary dates, but I'm gonna make one for Jazzfanz for 2018. I'm going to try and see the good in everyone, see their pov, see their and my own bias and when I disagree, instead of writing them off as a person with a ****** opinion, I wanna to share my POV of why I think the way I do.
After all, dudes, what this world needs is love more than hate - light more than darkness - and knowledge more than ignorance. You know, that Jedi ****.

Hehepeepeecaca
 
Archie Moses said:
This is gonna sound cheesey af, but who cares. My default, online message board setting is to find things that I disagree with, or bothers me or to react to things I disagree with on every basis. I've been doing a lot of thinking lately, and honestly, it's a poor mindset to have. (I just barely made a post that did this and got to draw-a-line somewhere.)
I know new year's resolutions are cliches and goals don't and shouldn't start on arbitrary dates, but I'm gonna make one for Jazzfanz for 2018. I'm going to try and see the good in everyone, see their pov, see their and my own bias and when I disagree, instead of writing them off as a person with a ****** opinion, I wanna to share my POV of why I think the way I do.
After all, dudes, what this world needs is love more than hate - light more than darkness - and knowledge more than ignorance. You know, that Jedi ****.

Hehepeepeecaca
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Good post.

As far as seeing other's POV, I'm all for it, despite what my current rep might be. A little while back franklin came into a post and disagreed with something I had said. I was excited. Finally someone who first, addressed what I had actually posted, then gave a reasoned counter to what I had said. He acknowledged the points I had made, explained where he thought the errors in my reasoning were, and offered an alternative view. It was ****ing brilliant and I have very much missed that here for a very long time.

I will happily engage with people with different POVs, I will give their POV all the credit in the world. All I ask is that they enter the discussion on good faith, with the intention to give and take, exchange ideas, address the actual points being made and make points relevant to the conversation.

Blaring random *** talking points from some kind of pundit people follow as if parroting something from somewhere else means something to the discussion here? Ain't nobody got time for that.
 
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