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[Saint Cy of JFC]

When he is playing against Forwards that are under 6`8

Gasol and Dirk are both better offensive PF too, I forgot to add those, but Boozer is still a top 5 offensive PF. Millsap, while I love him, isnt as good.

 

[Mambo]

Gasol and Dirk are both better offensive PF too, I forgot to add those, but Boozer is still a top 5 offensive PF. Millsap, while I love him, isnt as good.

I look at it this way would I rather have Boozer/Jefferson Millsap/Boozer Jefferson/Millsap

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I look at it this way would I rather have Boozer/Jefferson Millsap/Boozer Jefferson/Millsap

Boozer/Jefferson if money is not a problem, Millsap/Jefferson since money is a problem

 

[Mambo]

Boozer/Jefferson if money is not a problem, Millsap/Jefferson since money is a problem

I couldnt see Boozer/Jefferson playing well together at all.

 

[Nghedman]

Same at the 1
(Arguably) Same at the 2
Same at the 3
Better at the 4
Way better at the 5.

Yea. I'd say we got a ton better.. addition by subtraction at the 4, plus addition by addition at the 5.

Ummm, YES better at SG easily, as has been explained in many previous posts. Bell has the skill sets of two players. Hence there is no weakness on the floor with Korver (defense) or with Mattews (outside shooting). This is hugh...no really HUGH. I can't understand why people don't see this. HUGH! And was the reason the Jazz traded Brewer. Bulls are going to have the same problem Utah had.

 

[JohnnyClutch]

Millsap's jumper is technically vastly superior to Loozer's ugly, reach back, slow, high arc, streaky, goof lookin, loose, smelly jumper. Paul's is tight, square, soft, quick, better.

Millsap's got heart -- a warrior. Will take someone's head if needed. Loozer's a fade away waiting to happen. Either that or he gets his **** thrown.

Millsap >>>>> Loozer.

 

[JohnnyClutch]

I agree that we're better at the two. I think we should start CJ there though unless he loses that assertiveness. I think he showed during the Lakers series in particular that he finally gets it.

Deron, CJ, AK (cause he thrives on starting), Millsap, and Jefferson, with Price, Bell, Gordo, and Memo off the bench.

Better. Much better.

 

[David Stern]

I agree that we're better at the two. I think we should start CJ there though unless he loses that assertiveness. I think he showed during the Lakers series in particular that he finally gets it.

Deron, CJ, AK (cause he thrives on starting), Millsap, and Jefferson, with Price, Bell, Gordo, and Memo off the bench.

Better. Much better.

I don't think we really care about regular season as much anymore, its a given that our team is going to win 50 games barring major injuries. We can beat anybody in the West except LA, and we know that. So the lineup you suggested gives us a lot better shot at doing that, so its an improvement. Or, in short, I agree.

 

[gomretat]

I understand your points but let me say this.

1) AJ was a 20-10 guy on a crappy team with poor point guard. It's not hard to imagine that he could be a 24/11 guy here and therefore be better than booze. it's not also blatant homerism to believe that given his size advantage and a change in scenery, he could also be a better and more interested defender.
2) I know we didn't truly address length in the form of a center (what were our options you would have proposed?) but AJ has 1.5 inches in standing reach on Booze and 3 inches in max vert reach. Hayward also has 3.5 inches in max vert reach on Korver. Their additions, along with Evans made us a little bit longer and more athletic imo. Obviously, we still need someone who can contend with Gasol and/or Bynum down low and that's why my sig is what it is.

I see us taking a slight step back to around 50 wins because of chemistry issues but am holding out hope that the following year, with Miles and Hayward more seasoned, Jefferson more acclimated to our offense, and Kobe another year older, we could truly do some damage.

Absolutely spot on. Same argument I have made multiple times but in one complete summary. Also agreed that if we are better this year it will be because AK deserves and gets more minutes. He is the X factor this year.

 

[gomretat]

Why doesn't anyone in this world but me realize that Boozer was a 20 point a night guy because he was in a system that basically serves up points to it's PF's on a silver platter? He'll lose atleast 4-5 points a night anywhere else in the NBA (especially with a shoot first, not pass first like he's used to, PG like Rose), book it!

And why doesn't anyone but me realize that Boozer should have been a 25+ point guy a night if he played with the same drive that he would show in spurts 1 out of every 6 nights when he would be driving to the hoop, drawing contact, and finishing.... instead he was one of the most, if not thee most, blocked player in the NBA (For each, "AND ONE!!!" there was a "GET THAT **** OUTTA HERE!!!" from the guy sending his junk up to the nose-bleeds).

Plus, how am I the only one who thinks that he was a 10 rebound a night guy only because he would call off teammates atleast once or twice a night when going for rebounds to pad stats? This means he's closer to an 8 rebound a night guy... Kool-Aid or not, I know the Jazz and I watched Boozer. He was given every opportunity to be an all-star here and at times he took that opportunity, but don't look for him to repeat that 20 and 10 statline for Chicago. He'll be a 15 and 8 guy tops, and that's IF he doesn't sit from PMS cramps every other night.

Miami 1st best off-season. Jazz 2nd. LA 3rd. Bulls 4th.

Obviously you are the smartest person on the planet so why would anyone have the insights you do.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Agree with chawx, nghedman and Johnny.

Al gives us a real low-post presence a la the early days of Malone. We can say Booz was a post-player, but 85% of the time, he'd take the fadeaway shot. With Big Al working inside, either Millsap or Okur are the perfect complementary players, they can both hit the mid-range shot if Jefferson gets doubled and throws it back out, or in Okur's case, drift out to the 3.

As for the starters, I think Bell and AK need to be in the line-up. You want to set a defensive tone against the opposing team and most have great scorers at either the 2 or 3 (or both).

JohnnyClutch made a valid point about Jefferson replacing Okur, not Boozer. That's a big improvement. And IMO, Millsap = Boozer. You give up 4 points on offense, but make that up on the defensive end. There's no question in my mind, Paul could be a 16/10 guy. But with Jefferson also pounding the glass, and AK a decent rebounder, maybe 16/8 is more realistic.

Jazz are improved at the 5 and arguably equal at the 4 (less offense/better defense). Unchanged at the 1 and 3. So that leaves the 2. If healthy, I think Raja could be an improvement over Wesley. He's a better defender. And a better shooter. Less effective then Matthews cutting to the hoop. Raja will work more from the outside, which allows AK to be the cutter (his strength).

AS for the bench, I don't think we lost anything. As I've mentioned before, Kyle gave the Jazz 2.5 three-point attempts per game. That's really not a major "threat." CJ/Raja can easily match that. And Hayward will be just as effective off curls and is just as good from the FT line.

I think we'll be a much better team defensively. Equal or maybe just a touch lighter on offense, depending on rotation minutes, if/when Memo returns, etc.

 

[theNBAnerd]

sap isn't an upgrade over boozer, either, guys. sap has 2 post moves (literally) and almost never gets double-teamed. he can put up similar numbers to boozer in one-month stretches, but boozer is a FAR more complete player than either millsap OR jefferson.