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Utah Jazz sign second-round pick Joel Bolomboy

Well thought-out post, thanks Stoked. And whoever you plagiarized. :)

I agree that we addressed a lot of needs. The issue is there were so many to address (side-note: it is impossible to address injuries, let's hope we avoid so many of those this next season), and to what level did we address them. Is our shooting now world-class, or is it league average adequate? We got a couple of vets with some playoff experience, but all are realistically peeking over the top of the hill if not outright headed down, how much of a plus is that really? If there is some number line we could add to all this, and 0 is the center point, then in those categories where we were negative, did we just move closer to 0, or did we really make a jump. Be honest about it too. And a few of these remain to be seen. Chemistry? We have been bitten on that front more than once with a new guy who brought vet playoff experience. Get healthy? Sure we get a single player back after season-ending injury, but during the season last year we were something like in the top 3 teams in the league for games lost to injury, NOT counting Exum.

While I agree we made strides in all of these areas, I question how big those strides were, for one thing.

But really what all my rants have been about is that it is getting very old watching us do the same damn thing every single year. A few years ago we added some vets with playoff experience, one who went on to win a ring (Jefferson) proving they were not total crap, and more than one who has gone on to have solid impacts on their NEXT teams. But we were somewhat hopeful when they came in (and more critical, as there was some vocal opposition on this board), but mostly it was viewed as a "solid" move. A solid move that got us nowhere.

I am ready to watch the front office go nuts, throw everything at the wall to see what sticks, and, as I have stated in other posts, move us solidly either into the top 3 or bottom 3. Go for the gold. Stop *****-footing around and do something different. I would at least like to have read somewhere something like KD went to the Warriors despite the fact that the Jazz threw everything but the kitchen sink at him. Something to generate some headlines that we are hitting away, not just bunting again. I know the options this season were limited, but maybe a little shake-up would light a fire. Let the team know everyone is up for grabs if they don't put it in gear and really hit the ground running. But I will be a pretty disenchanted fan to see another just-miss lower teens pick. Time to **** or get off the pot.

The only real way to address injuries is avoid injury plagued players and improve your depth and hope. For the most part Utah has done this.

The older vets will give our core playoff experience and most are on short (1-2 year contracts). Than they will be the playoff vets and we can bring in the pieces missing at that time.

As for shooting, I'd say above league average but not yet elite.

As for moving into the top 3, I think we all agree that we want to be there. But it is extremely hard to get there at all and even harder for a team like Utah. The FO put is in the group right below them IMO and in our best chance in a long time to get into that elite group of true contenders.

It will never be easy or quick to jump into the true elite one season to the next for Utah. But I truly feel this is our best chance we have had to get there since the end of the 98 season.

I agree that the FO should let the team know that we are in the pursuit of a title and nothing less is acceptable.

But with this team you know have an attractive offer to throw in with that kitchen sink at a Superstar. You have elite D, good shooting, play makers, youth, speed and hunger.
 
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The only real way to address injuries is avoid injury plagued players and improve your depth and hope. For the most part Utah has done this.

The older vets will give our core playoff experience and most are on short (1-2 year contracts). Than they will be the playoff vets and we can bring in the pieces missing at that time.

As for shooting, I'd say above league average but not yet elite.

As for moving into the top 3, I think we all agree that we want to be there. But it is extremely hard to get there at all and even hard for a team like Utah. The FO put is in the group right below them IMO and in our best chance in a long time to get into that elite group of true contenders.

It will never be easy or quick to jump into the true elite one season to the next for Utah. But I truly feel this is our best chance we have had to get there since the end of the 98 season.

I agree that the FO should let the team know that we are in the pursuit of a title and nothing less is acceptable.

But with this team you know have an attractive offer to throw in with that kitchen sink at a Superstar. You have elite D, good shooting, play makers, youth, speed and hunger.

Best and most realistic post of the thread yet. Liked or repped or whatever all that jumbled crap in the corner over there is.

:)
 
The only real way to address injuries is avoid injury plagued players and improve your depth and hope. For the most part Utah has done this.

The older vets will give our core playoff experience and most are on short (1-2 year contracts). Than they will be the playoff vets and we can bring in the pieces missing at that time.

As for shooting, I'd say above league average but not yet elite.

As for moving into the top 3, I think we all agree that we want to be there. But it is extremely hard to get there at all and even hard for a team like Utah. The FO put is in the group right below them IMO and in our best chance in a long time to get into that elite group of true contenders.

It will never be easy or quick to jump into the true elite one season to the next for Utah. But I truly feel this is our best chance we have had to get there since the end of the 98 season.

I agree that the FO should let the team know that we are in the pursuit of a title and nothing less is acceptable.

But with this team you know have an attractive offer to throw in with that kitchen sink at a Superstar. You have elite D, good shooting, play makers, youth, speed and hunger.

Again, duplicate....is your mailbox full stoked?
 
Realistically it is a 2-tier league.

And I agree we need to make a team that a super-star would want to join, but unless that is the target I don't see much this season to wet my panties over. Modest improvements are nice and all, we can win a few more games and maybe get to the playoffs. But that will be about it. And that is the status-quo I was referring to. Maybe a cycle is a better term. We put together a group of scrappy youngsters, they get everyone excited, they go nowhere, we add some "vets" with "play-off experience", they again go nowhere. Our scrappy youngsters become too expensive (e.g. Milsap and Jefferson together) and we either let them go or we make trades for picks. Then we put together a new group of scrappy youngsters and get excited. Wash and repeat.

We should all change our names to something along the lines of rinse and repeat, Jazz_Mediocrity, WeJustWantPlayoffsNow, and Blow_It_Up_Already.
 
So, uh sorry to interrupt, but I was just wondering if they ever released the details of the Bolomboy contract?
 
As long as we are interrupting this fascinating conversation about gambling and plagarism...

Let me say this... the one check mark we did not necessarily check off this offsets on is TOUGHNESS. The jazz didn't get an enforcer. Zaza tough. Booker tough. Stick this in your ear G Hayward you white Peeeyachhh Delonte west tougher. (Ha ha ha. Auto correct on my phone changed delonte into felony. It knew!)

I am afraid that we actually got a bit softer as far as enforcers go. We probably gained some mental toughness to close out games. Rudy and perhaps Bolomboy are our two toughest dudes at this point and Bolomboy isn't guaranteed as far as I can tell.

Other than that, I am thrilled with the progress of the team and I see no reason for the doom and gloom on the board. We aren't going to beat the Warriors or Cleveland for the championship no matter who we picked up this year. Period. We are building something and this year will represent plenty of redemption... YO
 
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