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Utah Jazz vs Phoenix Suns. 7:00 mountain time. Vivint smart home arena

Handlogten's Heros said:
Neto, Ricky, Joe all scored on him... he was the reason we went from up 3-5 to up to 15-20. He was really, really bad.
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Typically his scoring will offset some of the getting scored on though. That was kind of my point in my other post about how if he gets there same looks he got last night he will usually make a good percentage of them which would offset some of the getting scored on.

If he scores 15 points in his 14 minutes last night then we don't go from up 3-5 points to up 15-20.

Also, I'm thinking his teammates are not great defenders to help or to rotate and things if that nature. I wonder what the suns reached defensively before jimmer showed up. I have no idea but I would guess that their defensive ranking wasn't great.

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The amount of people online who are ripping Utah fans people for being racists, white supremacists and Mormon for cheering for a Fredette is a good example of sensationalism, fear mongering, stereotyping and social distortion (not the band, silly.)

That said, it was beyond embarrassing watching the game because of how predictable that storyline would be. Especially after all the bad PR and national attention our fans have received recently.

I'm ok for cheering for the guy a lil bit. Hell, when Jimmer lit up the University of Utah at the Huntsman center, I remember fans applauding for his spectacular performance. However, what happened last night was a lil too much and it certainly makes you think what I wrote earlier. Jimmer has countless fans that are convinced he's a great NBA player who wasn't given a fair chance. He was and he's just not that good. He was clueless on defense last night and was so bad on screens. He wouldn't fight through them and switched every time without effort. He was out of control on offense and the play he was fouled on after he went 1 on 3 and tried to throw the ball up backwards, with one hand made me want to change the channel due to second hand embarrassment.
 
Star players who actually play for the team will never get as much love as a white Mormon choir boy, trash can of a basketball player, on the opposing team.
 
It was all in good fun and even I as Ute fan was cheering for him. I couldn't care less about Jimmer. I meant absolutely no harm and was just having fun as the game was well over and that one measly bucket wasnt going to hurt a morsel. The players took this as some malicious act. Nobody meant any harm.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Star players who actually play for the team will never get as much love as a white Mormon choir boy, trash can of a basketball player, on the opposing team.
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What does white have to do with anything?
This team gets so much love.

DM and Gobert get the most, but the rest of the team is adored here. It doesn't matter the "color". Ingles gets less or the same, but I wouldn't say more love than DM and if he did it has nothing do do with color, it's because he's hilarious and awesome.

Go ahead and hate Jimmer. He was fun to watch in college, was voted the top national college player, even NBA stars were chiming in on Jimmer. It was tons of fun. This is just a bunch of fans living in the past and reliving a part of what it was like back then. I can understand rooting for him and going back in time, a bit. It's definitely bigger than I thought it would be, but I don't think it was a knock on our players or that it will mean less support for our team at all even if they felt like it was. I thought it was over the top, but I also think you were with this post.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
I’m a Jazz Fan and BYU fan.
There, stage set.
I hated the absurd cheering for Jimmer tonight. Cheered when he got on the floor, when he touched the ball, when he shot, when he picked his nose. Groaned at every miss.
I wish Jimmer every success in the NBA and life, but not against the Jazz even if it’s a blowout.
Cheer for the Jazz. The crowd did cheer for the Jazz but I didn’t hear any groaning when our players missed. It was pretty over the top imo.

It also seemed an objective of the Jazz, part of the game plan, was to shut down Jimmer. Bump him, ride him, and don’t let him score... more than normal and more than any other PHO player not named Booker.

I liked it and I get it. I’d do the same if my home crowd was cheering for someone on the other team.

Good luck Jimmer. Dear Jazz fans, please don’t psycho cheer for opposing players, but the Booker respect cheer when he sat was pretty cool and classy.

The end.
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Might be the best post of your JFC career. Props.
 
JazzyFresh said:
It was all in good fun and even I as Ute fan was cheering for him. I couldn't care less about Jimmer. I meant absolutely no harm and was just having fun as the game was well over and that one measly bucket wasnt going to hurt a morsel. The players took this as some malicious act. Nobody meant any harm.
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I was super annoyed at first. I'm calming down now... a little.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
What does white have to do with anything?
This team gets so much love.

DM and Gobert get the most, but the rest of the team is adored here. It doesn't matter the "color". Ingles gets less or the same, but I wouldn't say more love than DM and if he did it has nothing do do with color, it's because he's hilarious and awesome.

Go ahead and hate Jimmer. He was fun to watch in college, was voted the top national college player, even NBA stars were chiming in on Jimmer. It was tons of fun. This is just a bunch of fans living in the past and reliving a part of what it was like back then. I can understand rooting for him and going back in time, a bit. It's definitely bigger than I thought it would be, but I don't think it was a knock on our players or that it will mean less support for our team at all even if they felt like it was. I thought it was over the top, but I also think you were with this post.
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Gobert (and Mitchell in a more underhanded way) both commented how he got cheered louder than the team did, Rudy set a dunk record and the crowd went way more crazy for Jimmer's single basket. Rudy even said it must be a religion thing, I think it's a bad look and certainly doesn't appear to have endeared any of our players to our crowd.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Star players who actually play for the team will never get as much love as a white Mormon choir boy, trash can of a basketball player, on the opposing team.
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I disagree with your over reaction.
I rarely see jimmer praise or even jimmer talk on jazz fanz.
I see lots of threads and discussions about jazz players though.
I never see jimmer jerseys when I go to jazz games. I often see Donovan Mitchell and Rudy gobert jerseys though.

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The Jazz were up big. They were getting dunk after dunk. The fans were bored and tried to get excited. It's like getting overly excited about a chicken sandwich.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Gobert (and Mitchell in a more underhanded way) both commented how he got cheered louder than the team did, Rudy set a dunk record and the crowd went way more crazy for Jimmer's single basket. Rudy even said it must be a religion thing, I think it's a bad look and certainly doesn't appear to have endeared any of our players to our crowd.
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I agree, but Jimmer being white has nothing to do with it.
 
fishonjazz said:
I disagree with your over reaction.
I rarely see jimmer praise or even jimmer talk on jazz fanz.
I see lots of threads and discussions about jazz players though.
I never see jimmer jerseys when I go to jazz games. I often see Donovan Mitchell and Rudy gobert jerseys though.

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That’s because Jimmer is an absolutely irrelevant NBA basketball player.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That’s because Jimmer is an absolutely irrelevant NBA basketball player.
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My point exactly.
He doesn't get as much love from our fans as our actual players do and it's an over reaction to say he does. Sample size of 14 minutes of play isn't a very large one imo.


Free chicken sandwiches get the most love from our fans tbh lol

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fishonjazz said:
I disagree with your over reaction.
I rarely see jimmer praise or even jimmer talk on jazz fanz.
I see lots of threads and discussions about jazz players though.
I never see jimmer jerseys when I go to jazz games. I often see Donovan Mitchell and Rudy gobert jerseys though.

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I probably am overreacting. But you have a habit of responding to a post with numerous straw-men. I never disputed anything you said in your post. It's a fact that Jimmer got a louder cheer when his first shot in 10 went in than when Rudy Gobert set the dunk record, or for any of Rudy's huge dunks, or literally anything the Jazz did. All of the loudest cheers from last night were for an opposing player.
Jazz Spazz said:
I agree, but Jimmer being white has nothing to do with it.
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Guess we'll see when the far superior Kuzma comes to town tomorrow, he won't get nearly the love.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Guess we'll see when the far superior Kuzma comes to town tomorrow, he won't get nearly the love.
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Probably not, but blame that on the Ute/Jazz fans sucking... I mean not being as obsessed with former players as BYU fans. What have BYU fans had to cheer for in the last 10 years, give them something.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
I probably am overreacting. But you have a habit of responding to a post with numerous straw-men. I never disputed anything you said in your post. It's a fact that Jimmer got a louder cheer when his first shot in 10 went in than when Rudy Gobert set the dunk record, or for any of Rudy's huge dunks, or literally anything the Jazz did. All of the loudest cheers from last night were for an opposing player.

Guess we'll see when the far superior Kuzma comes to town tomorrow, he won't get nearly the love.
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You said he gets more love than jazz players.
What you probably should have said is he got more love than the jazz players in that game. I wouldn't have argued with that. Instead I took your statement at face value. No straw man to create.

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