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Utah Spy Center........

Except, they actually are answerable to someone... the voting public. Of course, that would require people to get off their lazy asses, read, investigate, care, etc., so I can see how you come to your doomsday conclusions. I just can't get over the people who bitch and moan about this kind of stuff, but then go right on ahead and keep voting in the same fools that put these types of things together.



Please tell me that babe was talking **** on the Huntsman's... They may be Ute supporters, but other than that, they're an amazing family.

Being "Ute Supporters" goes in the plus column, buddy.
 
babe is one of the good guys?

Hellz yah.


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Let's put it this way. Once upon a time I really believed I knew how everything in the world should be run, and one of my skeptical brothers on realizing I was really believing that said something about how scary that idea looked to him. . . . .

I've passed by a few chances, perhaps, to make a mark in the world, maybe I should regret a few of those. Not a lot of them. Most of them I think we can all be grateful I got a chance to think twice or thrice before I did any damage.

The one idea I credit more than any other for reforming the once "Ugly Babe" version of the "Ugly American" is a heartfelt Fear of God.

I really just don't wanna see any folks without that kind of gripping conscience running this world. Let's all just say "No" to the the whole godless Progressive movement. There but for the mercy of God go I.

The whole idea of a government agency empowered as the HSA is by the NDAA ought to have you all worried.
 
I love how suddenly this crap is "offensive" to those who couldn't stop drinking the trampling of the Constitution from 2000-08. I remember when critics of Bush were bashed by those (who complain loudest right now) as being unpatriotic, Muslim, french, and pro-terrorism.

It's not like this Utah Spy Center was suddenly planned and built in the last month. Where have Utahns been this entire century for crying out loud?
 
I love how suddenly this crap is "offensive" to those who couldn't stop drinking the trampling of the Constitution from 2000-08. I remember when critics of Bush were bashed by those (who complain loudest right now) as being unpatriotic, Muslim, french, and pro-terrorism.

It's not like this Utah Spy Center was suddenly planned and built in the last month. Where have Utahns been this entire century for crying out loud?

I'll get back to this when I get a rep refill. . . .

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

I do think we've been had by the same old same old one-two punch of the Republicans and the Democrats. But this is about as close as I think I'll ever get to just agreeing with Thriller. . . .

Right as Rain.
 
I'll get back to this when I get a rep refill. . . .



I do think we've been had by the same old same old one-two punch of the Republicans and the Democrats. But this is about as close as I think I'll ever get to just agreeing with Thriller. . . .

Right as Rain.

To me, the Patriot Act, the Iraqi War, and these ridiculous spy centers have always been things that I'm against. I don't care who is in charge or which party is in office.
 
not answerable to anybody is the core definition of "absolute power" and the logical antithesis of every other theory of "government". . . . . democracy, constitutional republic, monarchy even. . . . fascism implies a relative small set of oligarchs/businessmen with inordinate power over the government. . . . but giving a "spy agency" carte blanche empowers them to dispose of . . . . anyone.

I actually do know the origin of the global intelligence community, its purpose, what it's trying to accomplish and why, etc. However, I no longer worry about it, as it has literally no chance of succeeding.
 
I really just don't wanna see any folks without that kind of gripping conscience running this world. Let's all just say "No" to the the whole godless Progressive movement. There but for the mercy of God go I.
First of all who are these "godless progressives who are running things" Most Liberals in power seem quite religious to me.

Secondly, the idea that people who fear god are automatically more moral than atheists or that atheists lack a conscience is ridiculous. Watch the news! People who fear god scare the **** out of me.
 
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