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Utah Trade Deadline Discussion
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Coach Ellis
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I like Raul, but if they plan to keep both Rubio and Exum (and assuming Exumg ets a long-term deal), I’m not sure the Jazz should stress too much about trading Neto tbh.
If I were DL, I’d offer Neto, Jerebko and a 2nd round pick to the Clippers for Milos Teodosic. See if they bite. For $6 million, I think he’d be a helluva backup next year behind Rubio.
Jack Strop
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Favors can't sign an extension even if the two sides wanted to. That ship sailed in October. He will be an UFA. I keep asking, for those who want to trade him, to come up with decent scenarios. Here are the major guard rails:
1. DL will not take on contracts >1 yr without getting back a 1st or significant asset.
2. DL will not give up a 1st unless that player is a major upgrade (as evidenced by his refusal to trade for Mirotic).
Coach Ellis
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I’ll be shocked if they get an offer they like and Favors gets traded. Not sure what that means for his future, but I’d love to see him come back. I know that’s not a popular position, but I’d be all for it.
zyzz
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Like if a team goes on a winning streak, ownership would pressure the GM to make a win now deal. A deal that the owner wouldn't have told the GM to make had they not gone on a winning streak.
LoPo
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I would put the entire trade deadline on Monday night's game at New Orleans. If we win, we're 3 games under .500 and just beat the 7 seed who we are 3 games behind. If we lose the game, we are 5 games under .500 with 29 games left and 5 games behind the 7 seed.
If we win, I think we should maybe do a minor deal like trade Burks, Joe Johnson or maybe Neto. We could make the argument that we need continuity since we have a 6 game win streak and Exum close to returning. If we lose, we should be aggressive with any opportunity. Keeping everything intact trying to make up a 5 game deficit to be anything better than the 8 seed is just ludicrous. Get assets for expirings. Be opportunistic.
I know they won't look at it like that, but if we are debating a trade with this guy or a trade with that guy, use the Monday night game as the tiebreaker.
If we win, I think we should maybe do a minor deal like trade Burks, Joe Johnson or maybe Neto. We could make the argument that we need continuity since we have a 6 game win streak and Exum close to returning. If we lose, we should be aggressive with any opportunity. Keeping everything intact trying to make up a 5 game deficit to be anything better than the 8 seed is just ludicrous. Get assets for expirings. Be opportunistic.
I know they won't look at it like that, but if we are debating a trade with this guy or a trade with that guy, use the Monday night game as the tiebreaker.
NAOS
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Giving up all those assets to get a guy that they (apparently) could have had last offseason without giving up any?
Jack Strop
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Takes two to tango. What do you think is out there for Burks, JJ and Neto?
Burks: Nothing. To dump his salary likely means giving up a future 1st. You do that this summer if the Jazz need cap space for a FA.
JJ: Contenders suspect he'll be bought out. He's only included in a trade to make salaries match. But the Jazz showed with Mirotic they're not serious about bringing in major talent if it means giving up an asset. Mirotic was the PERFECT fit at the Jazz' most critical position of need. And still Lindsey refused to deal.
Neto: Perhaps a 2nd round pick for Gobert's best friend/traveling companion. Nope. Absolutely not. If Neto leaves of his own accord, that's one thing. If he's traded, you piss off Rudy.
Thee Jazz Fan
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I hope the jazz aren't making decision based off if it will upset Rudy.
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Why would they trade Neto when he is currently 1 of 2 healthy PG's on the roster?
It's wild, but teams dont trade every expiring contract every year.
Jack Strop
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Why not? Third-string PG is immaterial. You really think getting a 2nd round pick is important? I'll bet you can buy a 2nd rd pick for ~$1M if you really need to. Stars are consulted all the time about free agent moves and trades. Deron Williams was asked about players. Gordon Hayward vetoed a minor trade according to Dennis Lindsey (he mentioned it was a vet for a young player). Rudy and Raul are close friends and, trading Neto isn't going to bring in a major rotation player.
If Neto is traded, he can't be re-signed as a FA, IINM, for at least 1 year. Raul probably signs for less than market value due to his allegiance to Gobert. He'd be a great keep at ~$3M. He won't be traded unless a team insists as part of a larger deal.