Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

[Coach Ellis]

100% I don’t think he would have that kind of value around the league honestly, but I also want to retain him and think he’s exactly the kind of big wing we need. Just not sure nba GMs would think he would have first round value yet.

I like the guy, but he’s a 24 year old rookie who averages 4 points per game. He’s shown some potential, but you can find his production in the early-to-mid 2nd round if you scout well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No the rumor is that wall and Beal don't like Porter. They want him gone. That is what started the porter talk in the first place...

Wall and Beal do not don't like get along all the time either. I think JJ Barea might be right about Wall.

They won't break it up now, but it would make sense for them to move on for OP Jr. in a year. I think Wall might not have a lot of trade value on the Super Duper max contract... Beal is their best player so OP might be the odd man out.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I like the guy, but he’s a 24 year old rookie who averages 4 points per game. He’s shown some potential, but you can find his production in the early-to-mid 2nd round if you scout well.

I think a first is a fair value for him... I think he is better than what we'd get in second round pick because he can play and contribute now and is cheap. I don't think the league would value him as worth a first round pick doe.

Picking someone in the second round they may become as good as Royce but it might take a year or two.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Supposedly the Cavs deal for Hill is off for now. I'm guessing Gilbert saw the LT bill for that one and pooped his pants and told people he wanted to sell the team... the last part might not be true.

The report stated the Kings want to move Hill and might buy him out (he'd have to take a huge paycut if they go that route is my guess).

DL lets mend some fences here. Hill was perfect in our system... he would be great with DM and Exum next year. He may not be durable but has been good healthwise so far.

Ricky and Thabo for George Hill and Richardson (or skal... I'd include a second for him). Ricky makes a little less you can cut or decline Thabo. Ricky says he will be very nice and not pout.

Come on peoples lets make this happen.

 

[LoPo]

The George Hill to Cavs trade seems to be falling apart. Probably better for Cleveland. http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2018/01/cavaliers_kings_far_apart_on_p.html Hill would fit well, but they should just sign if the Kings buy him out.

HH posted seconds before I did.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I agree with Cy.

O'Neale is more than a filler, but not the reason for the 1st.

Whatever the case may be, we should not trade Royce O'Neale. He's is on an amazing contract and has tons of potential.

This I definitely agree with.

 

[MDAV28]

Supposedly the Cavs deal for Hill is off for now. I'm guessing Gilbert saw the LT bill for that one and pooped his pants and told people he wanted to sell the team... the last part might not be true.

The report stated the Kings want to move Hill and might buy him out (he'd have to take a huge paycut if they go that route is my guess).

DL lets mend some fences here. Hill was perfect in our system... he would be great with DM and Exum next year. He may not be durable but has been good healthwise so far.

Ricky and Thabo for George Hill and Richardson (or skal... I'd include a second for him). Ricky makes a little less you can cut or decline Thabo. Ricky says he will be very nice and not pout.

Come on peoples lets make this happen.

What's in it for the Kings? The salary savings are minimal.

 

[LoPo]

What's in it for the Kings? The salary savings are minimal.

If they took Shumpert and Frye for Hill, the Kings save $8 million next season and $1 million in 2019-20. And it's possible that Shumpert does not pick up his player option if he knows he'll rot in Sacramento. So if Shumpert were to decline his $11 million option for 2019-20, the Kings just made one of the smartest trades in recent memory. They would have found a way to dump a $19 million Hill who they don't want anymore for nothing. So even if Shumpert exercises his player option, the Kings still save $9 million.

 

[Ron Mexico]

No the rumor is that wall and Beal don't like Porter. They want him gone. That is what started the porter talk in the first place...

I have heard that as well. But Beal and Wall have not got along for awhile and had their issues. They also both play better when the other is out.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Supposedly the Cavs deal for Hill is off for now. I'm guessing Gilbert saw the LT bill for that one and pooped his pants and told people he wanted to sell the team... the last part might not be true.

The report stated the Kings want to move Hill and might buy him out (he'd have to take a huge paycut if they go that route is my guess).

DL lets mend some fences here. Hill was perfect in our system... he would be great with DM and Exum next year. He may not be durable but has been good healthwise so far.

Ricky and Thabo for George Hill and Richardson (or skal... I'd include a second for him). Ricky makes a little less you can cut or decline Thabo. Ricky says he will be very nice and not pout.

Come on peoples lets make this happen.

That extra $8 million in salary next year would cost the team $32 million after penalties.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That extra $8 million in salary next year would cost the team $32 million after penalties.

Not if Lebron leaves though... I think this year it would add a couple million in salary but they would clear a roster spot or two depending on if they were sending Rose too. Then you fill those empty spots and it adds another million or two.

Next year if Lebron stayed it would be catastrophic to the bill... if he leaves they pay more for Hill than shump but should be out of the tax.

 

[oneye]

Locke mentioned on his podcast today that he increasingly gets the feeling Favors really enjoys being here and playing for the Jazz. He then mentioned he talked to someone in the league who said a guy like Favors may end up getting something like a one year $8 million deal, basically saying players are going to find out this offseason the big money they are looking for isn’t going to be there.

My question is if this is true, do you just try to resign Favors? Especially if Favors is willing to take a back up roll? I get that’s unlikely but if Favors would try as hard as he did last night on most nights Favors is a very talented and capable big man with decent handles. I still think it’s likely Favors is gone before the dead line but it doesn’t seem for sure.