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PKM said:
Blocks, as a stat, are overrated, imo. Fun to follow, but doesn't tell the whole story of a guys defense.
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True, but generally someone getting blocks is actually playing defense.
It's rare to have a guy blocking shots that is not playing D.
On the flip side there can be guys playing good D that do not get many blocks.
 
our three best and vaterans are Jefferson Harris and Millsap they are absolutely must play,
sorry CJ you lose with Millsap at SF and Hayward at SG,

my prediction like some guys here:
PG HARRIS
SG HAYWARD
SF MILLSAP
PF FAVORS
C JEFFERSON

bench: KANTER CJ BURKS EVANS is pretty good pushing starting five bench,

biggest issue is back up PG, Watson and Price are nice complemnt guys but rather as 3rd PGs.
 
The first player I thought of was Hayward.

I hear he was working with Hornacek this summer, and now Hornacek's shot is even better.
 
JazzSpazz said:
The first player I thought of was Hayward.

I hear he was working with Hornacek this summer, and now Hornacek's shot is even better.
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Beautiful. Rep'ed.
 
1: Harris, Burks, Watson or Price if they can be had for super cheap.
2: Hayward, Burks, Miles
3: Milsap, Miles, AK (for 5 mil or less per year--could start when healthy. Just can't bank on it)
4/5: (interchangeable positional post players) Favors, AJ, Kanter

I would LOVE it if Burks was somehow able to fit in as a combo guard like Wade or Stuckey. If he can guard opposing 1s, we could used him as a slasher, penetrator on offense but run the offense primarily through Hayward.
 
JazzSpazz said:
True, but generally someone getting blocks is actually playing defense.
It's rare to have a guy blocking shots that is not playing D.
On the flip side there can be guys playing good D that do not get many blocks.
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Stoudemire and Jefferson were in the top ten in blocks last year.
 
JazzSpazz said:
True, but generally someone getting blocks is actually playing defense.
It's rare to have a guy blocking shots that is not playing D.
On the flip side there can be guys playing good D that do not get many blocks.
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That didn't rhyme, at all. Losing it.
 
Ok, I did some digging, and it has to do with the plus/minus so take what you will from this.
I took the +/- for the whole year, and the minutes played, then divided the +/- by the minutes played, and then multiplied that by 100 for ease of use.

This is what I found, we outscored opponents when the following players were on the floor.
Fesenko, 8.33 pts per 100 minutes.
Miles, 2.69 pts per 100.
Price, 1.39 pts per 100.
Watson, 0.70 pts per 100.
Sap, 0.61 pts per 100

Opponents outscored the Jazz when the following players were on the floor.

Kirilenko, -1.65 per 100
DWill, -2.49 per 100
Harris, -2.64 per 100
Evans, -3.24 per 100
Al, -5.71 per 100
Elson, -9.67 per 100
Bell, -10.16 per 100
Hayward -16.01 per 100
Favors -18.24 per 100
Okur -19.64 per 100
Cousin -94.44 per 100

What this tells me is...... nothing.
You are welcome.
 
Nothing indeed. What this tells you is who played a lot during garbage time.
 
JazzSpazz said:
True, but generally someone getting blocks is actually playing defense.
It's rare to have a guy blocking shots that is not playing D.
On the flip side there can be guys playing good D that do not get many blocks.
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PKM said:
That didn't rhyme, at all. Losing it.
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How about this

True, but generally
someone getting blocks is actually playing D
It's rare to have a guy or three
blocking shots that's not playing D
On the flip side there are guys says Lockes
who play good D but don't get blocks.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Nothing indeed. What this tells you is who played a lot during garbage time.
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Also tells you that D-Will's extra millions in salary was worth all of 0.15 points per 100 possessions.

And it also shows that Sap was arguably the Jazz's best player last year (as scary as that might seem) given that he had a positive +/- per 100 even though he got starter minutes. Kirilenko is a distant second to that; he was best of the (harmful) worst.

P.S. Usually the opposition puts in garbage players, too, so the claim about "garbage time" is something akin to . . . garbage. And if the opposition didn't, then it makes the positive performance of garbage-time players even more noteworthy.
 
It means generally our garbage was better than their garbage. Yippee.
 
JazzSpazz said:
How about this

True, but generally
someone getting blocks is actually playing D
It's rare to have a guy or three
blocking shots that's not playing D
On the flip side there are guys says Lockes
who play good D but don't get blocks.
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Masterpiece.
 
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