Utes 2011 Football Discussion

[SaltyDawg]

If Little Brother had a QB that could throw the rock, they would have beaten USC by at least 2 touchdowns. Utah's WRs were open all night and could have made big plays. Instead, most of the time Wynn would miss them with his awkward sidearm fly ball. And when he did hit them, the WRs had to wait so long for the ball to drop that the big play opportunity was lost.

Utah couldn't even blow out Montana State, you think they could blow out USC? Right. ER, I mean, be careful, you might want to get called a Ute Homer Tard or something like that.

On a serious note, I totally agree (and said as much before the game, for those that didn't get the sarcasm).

 

[SaltyDawg]

If neither team fixes any problems, Utah probably wins but doesn't blow them out. If Utah fixes their one problem, and USC doesn't fix anything, Utah blows them out. If USC fixes all of their problems and Utah doesn't fix anything (the least likely scenario) then USC probably wins but not a blowout. If Utah fixes their one problem and USC fixes some of their problems but not all of them (the most likely scenario) then depending on what problems USC actually fixes, Utah wins, probably wins comfortably and possibly a blowout.

Swing and a miss...

How is that a miss? The way I saw it, USC found a running game (Tyler had 113 yards rushing on a 4.7 yards per attempt average), and found some other receivers besides Woods (Grimble had 5 catches for 66 yards and a touchdown, 6 players had at least 15 yards receiving).

So USC fixed basically all of their problems, Utah didn't fix anything (Wynn sucked, Utah's only problem going into that game remained) and USC won but not in a blowout. Looks like a swing and a hit to me.

 

[prodigy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk9PyWQxlJI

 

[Deleted member 365]

Serious questions...

Has there been a worse QB than Wynn in recent Utah Football history?

Why is Utah so bad at the QB spot? have the coaches focused too much on defense and speedy WRs and have neglected the QB position?

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

I know I may sound like a broken record and I agree with most everything said about Wynn (especially his scared/panic scrambles) but c'mon how bad was the O-Line? They didn't do very good on pass protections and even worse on running plays, now don't get me wrong USC had a lot to do with that but still if the U had there usually good line it would cover a lot of Wynn's issues right now, well IMO.

Oh and nothing I've seen so far has me convinced the U can win but of course I'll pick them to win this next game.

 

[TheDude]

Serious questions...

Has there been a worse QB than Wynn in recent Utah Football history?

Why is Utah so bad at the QB spot? have the coaches focused too much on defense and speedy WRs and have neglected the QB position?

If by focusing you mean recruiting then that may be true. There's really no way (IMO) that you are going to coach and develop Wynn into a Pac12 QB. His ceiling is too low.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

If by focusing you mean recruiting then that may be true. There's really no way (IMO) that you are going to coach and develop Wynn into a Pac12 QB. His ceiling is too low.

Agreed. I think it's time to pull the redshirt off Tyler Shreve. It may seem like a knee-jerk reaction but IMO Utah does themselves more harm by sticking with Wynn. It makes it all the more likely that they are saddled with him as their only option next year as well. Unless they plan on starting Travis Wilson as a true freshman.

Even with Wynn's troubles, I'm picking Utah to win this week. Utah did a respectable job against Barkley/Woods. Hard to think that defense can't do better against a Heaps/Apo combo escpecially with Heaps and that offense struggling the way it is right now.

 

[kwb]

Wynn's not going any where. The coaches think he has that mental block like Whittingham said. If they don't stick with him, that only makes it worse.

 

[prodigy]

I know I may sound like a broken record and I agree with most everything said about Wynn (especially his scared/panic scrambles) but c'mon how bad was the O-Line? They didn't do very good on pass protections and even worse on running plays, now don't get me wrong USC had a lot to do with that but still if the U had there usually good line it would cover a lot of Wynn's issues right now, well IMO.
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The O-Line was a big question going into the season and I'll say it didn't help the Ute offense a whole lot vs. USC. Little to no running game to speak off. You have to have some balance in your offense or it just puts more and more pressure on your QB. Something that Wynn can't handle at this moment. I know it's a easy excuse but I think Wynn is probably our only option at Qb right now, we aren't going to be sending a freshman out there.

 

[prodigy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbyxbMSZNqQ

 

[Cope]

Just had a great conversation with a co worker who is a HUGE Utah fan. I for one am a Michigan Fan 1st but root for both BYU and Utah pretty equally.

I mentioned to him that Wynn looks horrible so far, has no arm, throws off his back foot, and once he gets a little pressure is flustered like an 11 year old Pee Wee football player.

His response "Wynn looked good and he 'almost' lead them to a victory over USC at USC. He looked just as good as Barkley and people are saying he is a 1st round draft pick."

I told him to step away from the Kool Aid and Red Colored glasses and see Wynn for what he is... Maybe a JC Quarterback (So far this year).

So my question to you all... is he as big of a homer as I know he is or am I blind to watching football and Wynn to be able to see that he is a crappy QB? I never have been big on the kid and even went on to say that burning a redshirt and getting experience for their other QB may be worth it if things don't turn around in the new few weeks.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Just had a great conversation with a co worker who is a HUGE Utah fan. I for one am a Michigan Fan 1st but root for both BYU and Utah pretty equally.

I mentioned to him that Wynn looks horrible so far, has no arm, throws off his back foot, and once he gets a little pressure is flustered like an 11 year old Pee Wee football player.

His response "Wynn looked good and he 'almost' lead them to a victory over USC at USC. He looked just as good as Barkley and people are saying he is a 1st round draft pick."

I told him to step away from the Kool Aid and Red Colored glasses and see Wynn for what he is... Maybe a JC Quarterback (So far this year).

So my question to you all... is he as big of a homer as I know he is or am I blind to watching football and Wynn to be able to see that he is a crappy QB? I never have been big on the kid and even went on to say that burning a redshirt and getting experience for their other QB may be worth it if things don't turn around in the new few weeks.

Wynn is horrible. I don't know if he is still injured or if he just sucks. Either way, whoever said he looked good and is playing like a 1st round pick is smoking some pretty potent stuff. Your observations on Wynn's play seem dead on to me.