Utes 2011 Football Discussion

[7StraightIsGreat]

UCLA beats ASU. We have them at home, but I'm still a little nervous about this game now.

I'm hoping for freezing temps and a driving snow storm. Let UCLA be the first PAC school to deal with playing a conference game at that elevation, in mid-November, and in that type of weather. I was really concerned about the Zona game. I actually thought Utah would lose that one.

Now it's starting to feel like Utah can get enough out of Jon Hayes to win these remaining games. That's huge considering that we're in such good hands with John White and our defense. I think they beat the Bruins.

 

[Bronco70]

Foles worried me too, but the Ute defense stepped up. Zone dropped some passes early, but the whole defense was on the same page.

It's a tough one. ASU beats Utah, UCLA beats ASU, Arizona beats UCLA, Utah beats Arizona. Pick 'em.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Foles worried me too, but the Ute defense stepped up. Zone dropped some passes early, but the whole defense was on the same page.

It's a tough one. ASU beats Utah, UCLA beats ASU, Arizona beats UCLA, Utah beats Arizona. Pick 'em.

It just shows that top to bottom, the Pac 12 is a tough conference. Oregon State was actually making a game of it pretty late against Stanford yesterday too.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Well Norm Chow looks to be improving. The offense went from the usual 4-6 different plays, to like 9-10 different plays. I even saw a flea flicker!

Good thing Duck didn't bet me on that Arizona game like he was saying he would. My prediction (and bets) that Utah would win out is starting to almost look like a given at this point.

Also, the Arizona announcers repeatedly called Utah's defense the best in the Pac 12.

The Utes are going to be scary good next year if they can keep a lot of these guys from entering the draft early.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Good thing Duck didn't bet me on that Arizona game like he was saying he would.

I was thinking you weren't as confident anymore so you didn't bring it up on Friday. I was definitely surprised when I turned on the game last night near the end. On my TV, the scorebox was cut off for some reason so you could only see the second number of Utah's score. Took me about 10 in game minutes to even realize I wasn't watching a close game.

Good win for you guys on the road.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I was thinking you weren't as confident anymore so you didn't bring it up on Friday. I was definitely surprised when I turned on the game last night near the end. On my TV, the scorebox was cut off for some reason so you could only see the second number of Utah's score. Took me about 10 in game minutes to even realize I wasn't watching a close game.

Lol, the scorebox was cut off on mine too. Probably karma because I was talking about how I usually watch the other team's Fox Sports feed. Just my luck, it wasn't available this time, and the KJZZ was just a poorly done retransmission of the Arizona broadcast.

I think it might have something to do with the fact that KJZZ was initially denied broadcast rights for that game and the PAC 12 appealed it. Part of the "ruling" probably included the Arizona Fox Sports feed not being available in this market or something.

So do you agree that Utah wins out now?

 

[Duck Rodgers]

So do you agree that Utah wins out now?

I don't know. Like I've said before the Pac 12 seems to be one of those leagues where the worst teams occasionally win games they shouldn't. Colorado could pull it off. UCLA and WSU are decent teams. I honestly hope you guys do though so that when SC comes to Salt Lake next year there can be even more buildup toward that game. That's one I'm definitely going to if I still live in Utah then.

 

[trigg3r]

That was a pretty terrible feed. KJZZHD my ###. Hopefully they win out and Wynn is never ever given the starting job again. I would rather we have one of our freshman coming in than Wynn.

 

[gregbroncs]

That was a pretty terrible feed. KJZZHD my ###. Hopefully they win out and Wynn is never ever given the starting job again. I would rather we have one of our freshman coming in than Wynn.

Why? Since Wynn got hurt our offense went from bad to non existent. Hayes is slowly starting to come around but Wynn is still the far better QB of the 2.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

The QB spot could be a potential nightmare again for Utah next season. Yes, Hayes will be more seasoned, but what is his ceiling? Hell, Utah was the only D1 school interested in him and that was at the last second. I just don't think you're going to see much better from him. Wynn could reasonably come back quicker from this shoulder injury because it's his non-throwing arm, but he's always going to be 1 play away being done for. He's Utah's version of Chad Pennington. IMO Utah better hope the true fresman from SoCal steps in and earns the job this fall. They may also want to look heavily into the JC ranks.

It will be a shame if Utah can't get good QB play next year because the team could be really good. We've already talked about how Utah returns much of their defense, but that WR corps is going to be LOADED next year. Every single major contributor coming back and the addition of Josh Gordon from Baylor who looks to be a beast. Not to mention the fact that John White will be returning in the backfield to keep defenses honest.

It could end up being an amazingly dynamic offense if they can find a way to get decent QB play.

 

[green]

I disagree about the QB position next year. I think it actually looks pretty good next year. You will have Wynn back, hopefully 100% healthy. When healthy, Wynn is a very good QB. Not a world beater, neither was Brian Johnson, and Wynn's defense is at least as good as Johnson's. As backups you will have Hays, with a lot of experience at that point, Shreve as a Redshirt Freshman and hopefully Travis Wilson keeps his commitment. That is depth. Nothing amazing, but Wynn is good enough to not lose games ala Hays, and Wynn can even carry the team at times (see last drive of the first half against BYU and the 4th quarter against USC.).

The QB position isn't great, but headed in the right direction. If Wilson keeps his commitment, we will have very good to great QB's for the next 6-8 years (Wilson then Hansen). They just need to keep building and adding to the talent.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Jordan Wynn is NOT good, let alone very good. He couldn't hold Brian Johnson's jock.

If Utah is to improve, it's coming from the hands of someone not named Hayes or Wynn.