VICTORY!!! LPGA to change policy on ‘female at birth’

[Bronco70]

haha how are you a moderator



it's a ridiculous possibility to guard against and it's only spouted by spitballing conservative bigots who watch too much Juwanna Man

Apparently you have absolutely no problem with making judgmental statements based almost entirely on assumption and conjecture.

My comment wasn't about whether the LPGA should or should not have amended it's rules - personally, I don't care about the LPGA, or who they allow to play - my post was commentary on the possibility of someone trying to take advantage of it.

But thanks for playing.

 

[GVC]

my post was commentary on the possibility of someone trying to take advantage of it.But thanks for playing.

It's only a matter of time until some dude makes the switch just to get into the LPGA.

Well, fwiw, your commentary is absolutely ridiculous. If these are the judgments you make, it is kind of funny that you're able (are you?) to function as a moderator.

 

[Gameface]

transitioning from male to female isn't as easy as throwing on a wig and stuffing a sports bra. the social consequences of being transgender alone are enough to negate any money the lpga offers, not to mention that this apparently stipulates that potential competitors must have undergone gender-reassignment surgery before being considered. the idea of discriminating against transgender women because of the possibility that a guy who can't cut it in the pga might go through the rigmarole of transitioning is insulting to the transgender community and to the competitors of the lpga. it's a ridiculous possibility to guard against and it's only spouted by spitballing conservative bigots who watch too much Juwanna Man

I don't pretend to know what would make this worth it to someone else. You're saying that the amount of money being made isn't enough to make someone want to do this, what if the amount of money did make it worth it? Would you feel differently then? Also, what if it is a person who might consider gender reassignment apart from their sports life but don't feel strongly enough about it to do it for that reason alone and have the surgery because it makes business sense for them? They would have an advantage over their "female at birth" competition, wouldn't they?

 

[LogGrad98]

You mean the same female at birth players who voted to change this policy? It seems to me they don't think it's unfair. Of course they could just be trying to avoid further legal action, but I'd like to think that's not their sole motivation.

I would always like to think that is not the sole motivation, but sadly most often it is the sole motivation. That and the LPGA do not want to get into never-ending public debate over the issue and become the poster-child for GLBT issues in the sporting world. It is easier to capitulate, accepting that the people who fit the new rule will be few and far between, rather than deal with the hornet's nest of publicity nightmares if they continued to fight it.

 

[UB]

A hole in one!!!

Awesome joke, UB!

 

[cjs55]

It's really a straw man to argue against whether someone would specifically go through a sex change to play in the LPGA. The fact of the matter is anyone who happens to be both transgender and also a serious golfer would be at an advantage over the rest of the field. This sort of caving is counter to the idea of having a separate woman's league in the first place.

 

[UB]

Hopefully this is the first step towards allowing women to try-out for historically "men's" leagues. Or is that already not the case?

 

[TroutBum]

Awesome joke, UB!

Your mom.

 

[cjs55]

Hopefully this is the first step towards allowing women to try-out for historically "men's" leagues. Or is that already not the case?

It's already the case.

 

[Get Down]

It's really a straw man to argue against whether someone would specifically go through a sex change to play in the LPGA. The fact of the matter is anyone who happens to be both transgender and also a serious golfer would be at an advantage over the rest of the field. This sort of caving is counter to the idea of having a separate woman's league in the first place.

haha how is that the "fact of the matter", is this a conclusion drawn from your intimate and studious knowledge of human physiology or from the decades of dominance transgender women have had in sports they've been allowed to compete in, like women's tennis

garbage

I don't pretend to assume what would make this worth it to someone else. You're saying that the amount of money being made isn't enough to make someone want to do this, what if the amount of money did make it worth it? Would you feel differently then? Also, what if it is a person who might consider gender reassignment apart from their sports life but don't feel strongly enough about it to do it for that reason alone and have the surgery because it makes business sense for them? They would have an advantage over their "female at birth" competition, wouldn't they?

this is a wildly contrived scenario built on a number of specious and offensive assumptions, such as that transgender women have a significant athletic advantage over at birth women, or that any pga runoff could dominate the lpga

even if what you were talking about could happen, it does not excuse a policy of continued discrimination by the lpga. the risk of a world class male golfer spending tens of thousands of dollars to undergo months of therapy before months of hormone treatments before months of recovery after reassignment surgery all in an effort to lay siege to the lpga isn't worth locking out those who just want a chance to compete.

 

[Bronco70]

Well, fwiw, your commentary is absolutely ridiculous. If these are the judgments you make, it is kind of funny that you're able (are you?) to function as a moderator.

What judgments are you speaking of? I haven't judged anyone. I made an off hand remark about the possibility of someone trying to take advantage of the new rule. I didn't make the remark to disparage the transgender community or question the wisdom of the LPGA. If that's what you've read into it, then that's your fault. I can't control it when someone wanders into a thread just looking for someone to be mad at.

OF COURSE it would be ridiculous for anyone to change genders solely to gain entrance into the LPGA. I think any reasonable person would arrive at that conclusion. But it certainly isn't beyond the realm of possibility. And that's all my comment amounted to.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Cool. The LPGA needed some publicity and it's certainly working. I wouldn't have even thought of ladies golf today unless I saw this news. Mission accomplished. As long as I can still jack it to pics of Natalie Gulbis, I really don't care what they do.