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I wish more “Christians” lived according to what their Christ preached. He said nothing about guns, gays, or abortion. He did say plenty about service, loving neighbors and immigrants, and living humble lives.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
The real question is: Did MTG repeat back Karenga's sentiment on purpose or on accident?
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The real question is what the hell is this lowlife doing elected to Congress, and how many more of this Trumpiest of the Trumpiest wing of the “Republican” party will be elected in 2022? And yes, I am aware of what some say regarding Karenga, and that is irrelevant, if not inaccurate, and has nothing to do with the abject mean spirited and stupidity level of Greene’s statement. But, nobody said the creme would rise to the top. More likely in our manner of electing, the lowest common denominator will rise. The barbarians were at the gates, and breached them, on 1/6. And the barbarians will mill about, likely in greater numbers, as elected members of Congress.
 
babe said:
Hey guys. Can't you find something she's said that is actually stupid, or even hateful, instead of spinning nonsense as you naturally do?
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Stop the steal?


30 minutes of Qanon psychobabble?



School shootings are false flags?



9/11 conspiracies?



MTG is the embodiment of voters voting for someone based on an initial by their name vs. actually understanding what they are voting for.
 
Republicans just saying the quiet part out loud.



They now believe parties and candidates offering ideas and people voting for those ideas is bad. I guess it’s just easier to install a dictator and turn off all thinking anyway.
 
The Thriller said:
Republicans just saying the quiet part out loud.



They now believe parties and candidates offering ideas and people voting for those ideas is bad. I guess it’s just easier to install a dictator and turn off all thinking anyway.
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How inconsiderate! After all the work the Republicans did to make voting very hard in those areas those dastardly Democrats went and made it easy to cast a valid legal vote.
 
Gameface said:
I don't know if I'm adding anything here, but whatever.

I've been an Atheist my entire life. Second generation I'd say, but I think at the time my parents identified more as agnostics until my older sister got old enough to become a bit of a militant atheist and I followed her in that a bit in my teen years. Anyway, I was fairly outspoken about it and twice there were girls who took on the challenge to "save" me. I also went to church with a few of my guy friends, but I think that was more their parents who were worried about my soul.

Anyway, both the times I went to church with these girls the surmon, at evangelical churches, was about the only way to avoid everlasting hellfire was to accept Jesus into your heart. Both times I walked away more convinced than ever that I was not interested in religion.
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My father is an Episcopal priest, and I remember going to church when he was preaching (for most of my childhood, he didn't have a regular parish, just did "supply" work where he would go to the small churches around Utah who didn't have a regular priest, or where a priest was on vacation) and would sit in the back pews and, which I knew all the rituals, I never really believed anything I was repeating.

But that's part of why I don't like criticizing "Christians" as a group, is he is, in a lot of ways, the exact opposite of the complaints I hear - welcoming, inclusive, forgiving, thoughtful. So I'm not an atheist because I hate religion, but simply because I don't believe in god. The negative effects of religion are beside the point.
 
gandalfe said:
I'm not an atheist because I hate religion, but simply because I don't believe in god.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic (not Democracy because we aren’t a Democracy) for which it stands, one nation UNDER GOD, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I've always liked the ‘one nation under god’ part because it establishes a hierarchy. There is a nation to which we are pledging allegiance to, but it is under god. It is lesser than god. God outranks the nation. You are pledging allegiance to the nation but it isn’t a blind allegiance. Being true to god, whatever god that may be, and the nation can’t even tell you what god you are allowed to revere so it is completely up to you, is seen by the nation as more important than allegiance to the nation.

If you say there is no god then nothing fills that role. In that case, do you believe there is nothing above the nation? Is the nation the highest authority that exists for you?
 
Al-O-Meter said:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic (not Democracy because we aren’t a Democracy) for which it stands, one nation UNDER GOD, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I've always liked the ‘one nation under god’ part because it establishes a hierarchy. There is a nation to which we are pledging allegiance to, but it is under god. It is lesser than god. God outranks the nation. You are pledging allegiance to the nation but it isn’t a blind allegiance. Being true to god, whatever god that may be, and the nation can’t even tell you what god you are allowed to revere so it is completely up to you, is seen by the nation as more important than allegiance to the nation.

If you say there is no god then nothing fills that role. In that case, do you believe there is nothing above the nation? Is the nation the highest authority that exists for you?
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"Under God" was only added in 1954. It was not part of the pledge until then, even though the pledge was first written and presented in 1892.
 
LogGrad98 said:
"Under God" was only added in 1954. It was not part of the pledge until then, even though the pledge was first written and presented in 1892.
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It’s amazing how people don’t know this. The Under God part was added under the Eisenhower administration to help unify the country during the Cold War.

www.history.com

How Dwight Eisenhower Found God in the White House | HISTORY

Dwight Eisenhower and Billy Graham shaped a half-century of religion in America.
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The author of the pledge would’ve been canned by most conservatives today:

Francis Julius Bellamy (May 18, 1855 – August 28, 1931) was an American Christian socialist minister and author
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Francis Bellamy - Wikipedia

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The original pledge:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

It helps to put things into context:

The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it, knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.
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Pledge of Allegiance - Wikipedia

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LogGrad98 said:
"Under God" was only added in 1954. It was not part of the pledge until then, even though the pledge was first written and presented in 1892.
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Yes. The Pledge was originally written by a Communist and included a Nazi-like Roman Salute. The 'under god' bit was added as a dig at the godless communists as the cold war ramped up, and the addition was strongly opposed by the family of the communist who original wrote the pledge. All of that aside, if nothing is higher than the nation, do atheists see the nation as the ultimate authority?
 
If God is the ultimate authority how does he/she/it show/enforce/whatever that authority? What are the actual changes that occur when you take the words "under god" out of the pledge or add them in? Its all silly semantics.
 
I mean how does "under God" affect things in a practical sense?
So right now, "under God" is in the Pledge of allegiance. There was a drone strike that took place a while back that killed some innocent folk. If "under God" was not in the pledge of allegiance then would that drone strike not have happened? Im curious of an example of how having or not having the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance would have any effect on literally anything.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Yes. The Pledge was originally written by a Communist and included a Nazi-like Roman Salute. The 'under god' bit was added as a dig at the godless communists as the cold war ramped up, and the addition was strongly opposed by the family of the communist who original wrote the pledge. All of that aside, if nothing is higher than the nation, do atheists see the nation as the ultimate authority?
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Um the dude was a christian preacher. I doubt he was "godless". I doubt his "nazi" proclivities, despite nazis not being around for another 30 years, had anything to do with godlessness. You are a spin-master I will give you that.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Yes. The Pledge was originally written by a Communist and included a Nazi-like Roman Salute. The 'under god' bit was added as a dig at the godless communists as the cold war ramped up, and the addition was strongly opposed by the family of the communist who original wrote the pledge. All of that aside, if nothing is higher than the nation, do atheists see the nation as the ultimate authority?
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Nazi like salute…. Nearly 30 years before the Nazi party was even founded?

Edit: LG already addressed that.
 
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