orangello
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The Jazz and Hawks are the only teams that have that kind of space and even that is tight.
Warriors and Jazz Mega Trade
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The Jazz and Hawks are the only teams that have that kind of space and even that is tight.
Orlando has a massive $17M TPE from.............(wait for it).............last year's Dwight Howard trade.
Cleveland has a lot of cap space.
But I think Utah probably has to get involved.
There might be a few teams that would take a flier on Bogut, but the Ws are going to have rub off some real crap in Biedrins' and Jefferson's contracts.
The Jazz and Magic are likely the most willing to take Barnes as an incentive. Well, maybe Cleveland would too.
Atlanta wanted to sign-and-trade Josh Smith, but they are also candidate to hit the tank button.
Stifle Tower
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Latest out of LA is that the Lakers would be willing to do a S&T for the expirings IF Barnes or Thompson is included. So basically what we've been saying. Too bad LA appears ready to agree to those terms. We don't have leverage anymore. Oh well, let GS decide on this one. I'm actually hoping Atlanta is a late choice for Dwight so he can join his buddy, Josh.
orangello
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We'll see. I was under the impression that LAL will ask for Barnes AND Thompson.
You've heard of the draft lottery, correct? Or is this another example of you now knowing how to count?
TBH, I think the Ws giving up both Thompson and Barnes would make Dwight less inclined to go to GS. If the Lakers hold the line on the S+T with the Ws, it might prevent Dwight from picking GS. That's why the Ws can't rely on the Lakers to help them. If it comes down to the Lakers agreeing to do a sign-and-trade, the Lakers might dictate which team Dwight goes to by agreeing or not agreeing to do a sign-and-trade with that team. Example: the Lakers don't agree to a workable deal with the Warriors, but agree to a deal with Houston or Dallas. I could see that happening.
The problem the Ws have is not just that they need to move contracts, they need to move bad contracts.
David Stern
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This is awesome that the jazz are already being mentioned in rumors like this... We are going to get some serious assets out of having this much cap space.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Dwight is an UFA. He doesn't need the Lakers to agree to a S&T unless that team doesn't have cap space. Houston already has cleared enough salary. I'm guessing that's his 2nd choice now.
Coach Ellis
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That only flies if the team he chooses has enough cap space to sign him. Dallas, Houston, L. A. and Atlanta do, but the Warriors do not. The Jazz, Hawks and maybe the Magic are the 3 teams best positioned to take on salary to facilitate a trade so the Warriors can clear space. The Hawks want to try to S&T Josh Smith, so they might stay out of it. The Magic would be in a tough spot to take on bad contracts (even if they're expiring) to help Dwight Howard land in his preferred location again. I just don't think their management can sell that investment to fans. The Jazz are in the best spot to make this happen, but they have to get real value out of it. No future protected draft picks after what happened last time.
It sounds like the Lakers might consider a sign & trade, but they are going to ask for a heck of a lot more than the Jazz since they're division rivals. The Jazz can take on multiple bad contracts and offset that by getting some real value out of it. If they could land Harrison Barnes (who I think could be very special with development) and maybe a draft pick somewhere (or the right to switch picks at some point down the road) then it's worth taking on a couple of bad contracts for one year. The ammount of salary dumped would save the Warriors a ton of money this year and give them more flexibility to put some pieces around their young core right away. The Lakers cant offer that. Then the Jazz can either try to buy out one or more of the new players, of flip them for younger assets before the trade deadline.
It sounds like the Lakers might consider a sign & trade, but they are going to ask for a heck of a lot more than the Jazz since they're division rivals. The Jazz can take on multiple bad contracts and offset that by getting some real value out of it. If they could land Harrison Barnes (who I think could be very special with development) and maybe a draft pick somewhere (or the right to switch picks at some point down the road) then it's worth taking on a couple of bad contracts for one year. The ammount of salary dumped would save the Warriors a ton of money this year and give them more flexibility to put some pieces around their young core right away. The Lakers cant offer that. Then the Jazz can either try to buy out one or more of the new players, of flip them for younger assets before the trade deadline.
Dwight would get an extra year and $30 mil more over the life of the contract if he signs with LA. In the past, that would carry over to sign-and-trade scenarios, but I'm not sure now with the new CBA.