You're crap about helping people on the side of the road. Totally different scenario and yo know your example is pure crap.
Way to go craig.
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You're crap about helping people on the side of the road. Totally different scenario and yo know your example is pure crap.
No, I don't think I do.
I really have no idea where your head is at, or whether your motive was to make a buck, but you have to recognize how tactless it is of you to hijack a thread about someone's kid getting cancer. Most of your posts had absolutely nothing to do with the topic. I don't know how you can't be ashamed of yourself or why it's so hard for you to just say, "Yeah, I got carried away and didn't show proper reverence for the situation. I'm sorry for that". Instead, you callously or cluelessly head into another pitch.
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Thats ****ed bois! **** cregg **** him with a ****ing team ramrods!
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huh?
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And Millsapa jumped on me for smelling the scum.
You sound like a real idiot. Threads get hijacked all the time. But it wasn't me who hijacked it.
I made one statement that did apply to the OP. But a bunch of you had to mouth off. If you guys had just left my first post alone, I would not have posted more. But you couldn't resist the chance to tell me off.
So who hijacked the thread?
If I broke a rule, then go cry to the mods.
Yeah, everything I said was SOOOOOO disrespectful. Oh so now Jazzfanz is all about showing respect? News to me.
I'll bet the OP and his son are really suffering because I didn't give out condolenses. Oh the humanity.
Yeah we get it. You're obviously pretty enthusiastic about some stuff you are convinced could help, and you tried to help. That was sooooooooooooooooo inconsiderate, and of course doesn't amount to as much as saying "So sorry".
People with cancer often get bombarded with information and "cures" from a lot of sources, and even some doctors try to be hopeful or helpful, and get paid for it. Usually get paid a LOT for it. And often can't really help, either.
But unless you've got your accredited certificate of competence from the State, a lot of people will just call you nuts, or insensitive. I studied cancer for a number of years, while actually being the hands-on labrat and library researcher, and paid from federal grant money. Helped to actually make some new chemotherapy agents way back when, and did the grunt work some well-known scientists published in peer-reviewed journals. I got tired of the inside track as I realized how toxic our stuff really is, and after the lead researcher of that group died from. . . . CANCER. I've seen the hardships people go through in the orthodox treatments, and I've seen some folks die of cancer using quack remedies. One lady I knew used to go around with wheat sprouts "healing" cancer patients, and telling them to stay away from the doctors. She started getting pretty large in the stomach, and was telling people she was having a miracle baby. . . . . but it was really cancer, and it really killed her.
The problem with anecdotal evidence as is often cited by herbalists and naturopaths is it's just ignorant sometimes. If I get diagnosed with cancer, there's some small chance the diagnosis is wrong. It's called the false positive on the logic table. If I then go to the ocean and take a swim, and believe the sea salt can cure it, and never go back for further evaluation, I could live. And I could be telling folks the sea salt cured me.
There are also many things that have been shown in a few studies to have a possible impact on cancer. Selenium in nutritional doses has long been known to help with cancer. There are quite a few other things that are known to provide support for the immune system, which is in fact our best hope in the event of cancer. Fact is, we all get cancer, multiple times every day, but we have two very effective systems usually at work fighting it, and "curing" it every day. It get harder for us to wake up our enzymatic and cellular defenses if these systems have gone to bed for a while, enough for a cancer to become detectable and get diagnosed. That usually puts us in the desperate straits of needing the big guns, like chemotherapy or radiation or surgery, and as sad as the associated effects are it is pretty good judgment to listen to the doctors. And get the help.
Unfortunately, we have a medical establishment and a heavily-lobbied federal oversight system, including grant-funding system, that has fallen into the hands of pharmaceutical interests, and we just don't get good studies of some possibly helpful things, and some are even heavily slandered in the medical press without research to back up the negative assessments. "Unproven" is accepted as proof that no sane person should even consider it. And as reason enough to refuse to fund legitimate studies.
So I get to watch while the medical profession goes about their standard therapy options and I'm told to just shut up. It is not within my power to even reason it out with people I care about sometimes. It gets to be terribly personal, and others will feel imposed upon with even an attempt to offer some faint hope or alternative.
So I have to understand that for most people, all we feel we can offer is sympathy or condolences, which can be very helpful. One of the firmly established facts of cancer is that there is more hope for those who have more hope as they face it and undergo the othodox therapies. . . . . . and the "placebo" therapies, and/or any other way of dealing with it. Our minds are incredibly powerful sometimes, beyond anything in our pharmaceutical warchest. . . . but still not enough to make psychological propaganda an effective "cure". Like some treatments with marginal effectiveness, we just try to use whatever we have. And we still have to accept a pretty unhappy statistic overall.
Being kind and caring, and showing understanding and compassion are some of the better traits we can try to demonstrate, and some of the most helpful.
