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We FINALLY Get to See the New Court:

My take:

The floor looks great.

The game, you have to take with a grain of salt. Gaines outplayed Williams. Come on.

-Sap: Looks fine. I don't see the meh. Sap is loved because he is a hardcore player, and I'm sure nobody wants to get injured in a scrimmage game.

-Big Al: Looks good. Seems like he is confused as to when to pass it and when to take it to the hole. I hope all this passing talk isn't getting him overly worried. We need him to take it to the hole.

-Bell: I think he looks good. He will be that veteran wing defender-who-can-nail-a-jumpshot that we need.

-Evans: Damn, what hasn't been said. I'd bet a million bucks this kid won't be cut.

-Hayward: Don't get the hate. I thought he played well, and he is so athletic and long for an American white boy. Had a nice block. If he had made a few of his shots that rimmed out and had been a bit less turn over prone, I think we would be singing his praises.

-AK: Looks wonderful. Love his post game.

-Fes: He looks GOOD. Weight wise, I mean. I think he could be a legit starting center for us if he keeps his focus. Got to the line nicely a couple times.

-Price: Was on fire with his jumpshots today. Played well.

-Gaines: I think he needs to be cut, but he played a good game. Still was splitting the FTs, ugh.

-Watson: He didn't play a great game but I could see that he is more of that "point-guard"-minded backup that we are looking for. He has a great body, and will provide what Gaines and Price don't.

-Thompson and Demitri(or w/e): Hmm. I want Thompson based on the team based on his background and college career, but neither of these guys had much of a showing.
 
twentytwo said:
My take:


-Fes: He looks GOOD. Weight wise, I mean. I think he could be a legit starting center for us if he keeps his focus. Got to the line nicely a couple times.

-Price: Was on fire with his jumpshots today. Played well.

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I disagree on Fes. He will never be a legit starting center...........ever.........on any team. He is worse than terrible on the offensive end and I understand that's not where he is needed but he is a complete liability down there. I'd say I'd put him at about a 35% shooter............if all his shots were breakaway, wide open layups. That's not hyperbole.

And if thats what Prices jumper looks like when "on fire" then the guy that coined that phrase would like it returned. Banking in a 3 from the top of the key and then hitting the top/side of the backboard on the next possession from the baseline isn't exactly Reggie Miller-esque.
 
I enjoyed the game. I think Jefferson and d will took it easy so the new guys could get a chance to shine. Gaines and Hayward hustled but were sloppy. At one point they had Evans guarding elson and evens held his own in the 5 spot.
 
Jefferson was absolutely winded there is no doubt about it. Nothing to be worried about but he needs work. Showed his great touch around the basket during the game, and during the drills made more shots than anyone.

I'm with the people that think fes looked good. Good for fes that is.

Elson was better than I thought hed be. Didnt do anything on D or hit the boards but on offense moved great, set good screens and made some nice shots.

Out of all the maybes I think Jeffers was the best. The other two wings are absolute garbage.

Evans, was so fun to watch. He did a 360 two handed dunk during warmups. In the game he was everywhere on the offensive boards. Didn't really know what to do on offense, just stood on the left block and watched the point guard. Soon as someone shot he crashed the boards. As long as nobody got a body on him he'd get the rebound. Only problem is if anyone even got a hand on him they could hold him back.

By far the biggest disappointment was Hayward. I'm a little worried about him, but just a little. Hopefully it was just nerves, he showed hes athletic enough to play.


I'm guessing there was about 6000 people there, which is way more than usual.
 
Echo what everyone has said about Evans. What a huge surprise... and I don't mean that literally. That kid is made of toothpicks, but he has a great nose for the ball, ridiculous hops, and-- as someone pointed out earlier-- an unexpected court awareness that pretty much has his place on the team set in stone. Earlier comparisons to Keon Clark seem justified; I just don't see how he will ever add much to his frame, but maybe he won't need it. I do wonder what position he'll play, though. I couldn't tell if he'd be quick enough to play SF, but he'll get physically demolished at the PF and C. Hm.

I disagree with the Hayward criticism. Yes, he missed some easy shots right at the rim, but that looked a lot like nerves and a couple of rookie mistakes to me. Otherwise, he was hustling to stick with his man on defense, got a steal and a block, and pulled down five rebounds that I counted, and this was all in three 10-minute periods, so he couldn't have been on the floor more than 20 minutes. I agree that if he had converted a couple of silly misses in the paint, he'd be getting a lot of praise right now. He also had good muscle on his frame-- not at all as skinny as some have suggested-- and played scrappy a couple of times when he got emotionally involved (i.e., the block everyone is mentioning, which happened immediately after he got stripped). I actually think, once his nerves calm down and he stops beating himself up over every little mistake, that he'll be getting regular minutes... as in, this season.

In general, it was hard to make many more judgements from the scrimmage. It was sloppy, there didn't seem to be any chemistry, and there was a complete absence of leadership on the floor... including from Deron. I think this was more a function of most of the people on the floor having no idea where they were supposed to be within the play than anything else. Also, the 4-5 guys trying to make the squad were asserting themselves perhaps too much at times, with the exception of Evans, who did not play outside of himself and I think came out the only clear candidate for one of those spots. That said, there were only a couple of other things I walked away feeling sure of: One, that Fes, although in noticeably better shape, has not matured on the court whatsoever, and he was unable to establish himself as either a rebounder or blocker. He won't be any more of a factor this year than the previous seasons, in my opinion. The second thing is that AK looked really, really good. He had a little bit more muscle (nobody will be complaining about him being too skinny-- he actually backed Millsap down on the low block early in the first period) and had a presence that almost had me believing he could be a quiet-yet-legitimate-leader on the team this year.

It was a good time. I look forward to October 7th to see if the team has begun to develop any sense of congruity, and to see who-- besides Evans-- gets a roster spot.
 
Thanks for every posting info about event. It was too long of drive to make from houston.

Hayward sounds like he played a lot like his first half of the first game in summer league he settled down and played well after that.
 
Deron cheapshotted Hayward on a screen. I hate Deron so much right now.
 
Thanks for the comments but I think everyone should remember it was a scrimmage. I like Evans a lot in summer league. I thought he would make the team out of summer league not because of his hops but because his high BB IQ. The kid just knows how to play the game. He needs to gain weight and work on his offense but he can play defense, rebound and block shots.

Hayward is going to be fine. For al the people who wanted the Jazz to take Ed Davis, guess what he is hurt AGAIN.
 
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