We REALLY need Enes to stay healthy

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Huh?

Game pace?

Rudy gets up and down the floor pretty easily. Doesn't lag behind. Hustles his *** off. Kanter is slow and lumbering.

I'm not sure you can say Kanter has better Stamina.

Surprisingly I find Gobert's stamina and speed excellent. He was keeping up with guards on fast breaks after 7 minutes on the court in the OKC game.

I can only watch highlights now and maybe I have watched the wrong highlights so mine is an ignorant opinion. I hope he will be able to keep it up.

 

[freakazoid]

Hey guis watch this it's gonna be really funny cuz I'm gonna say somethin' stupid haha good times.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

The talks of Enes being the 3rd big sounds outdated to me. You have 3 different dimensional bigmen, use them according to your opponent's weapons. Is there a strict law in the NBA to start the same person until the end of the season? Change the 5. Surprise them.

Thats what Ive been saying. Snyder needs to use all three bigs situationally.

This isnt a knock on Gobert, he's young energetic and raw. It's just that when he's on the floor the Jazz have a tendency to go threw extended periods of scoring funk. They pass the ball around the perimeter and pound dribble until 6 seconds left then screen for a long two. Why? Because Gobert is a liability who cant pop or roll, or make plays inside. Its 4 on 5 on offense and 6 on 5 on defense when he's in.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

We are a completely different team when Rudy is on the floor. I watch him constantly when we are on defense. The ground he covers is amazing and he covers guards all the way to the three-point line. He gets his hands on so many passes. There is enough scoring on this team, we need defense and Rudy gives it in spades.

Kanter, on the other hand, can't cover my dead grand mother. Kanter took too many defensive lessons from Big Al. Kanter can't cover 4's or 5's and he is our biggest liability defensively when he is in.

Kanter does just fine on defense when the wings arent sieves.

We do not have enough scoring mate this team seems last in the league. We cant afford to have a one way player start. Besides everyone knows this team needs the entire bench healthy just to compete. We need Kanter and hating on him because of a hard on for Gobert is misplaced.

 

[Hotdog]

Thats what Ive been saying. Snyder needs to use all three bigs situationally.

This isnt a knock on Gobert, he's young energetic and raw. It's just that when he's on the floor the Jazz have a tendency to go threw extended periods of scoring funk. They pass the ball around the perimeter and pound dribble until 6 seconds left then screen for a long two. Why? Because Gobert is a liability who cant pop or roll, or make plays inside. Its 4 on 5 on offense and 6 on 5 on defense when he's in.

Kanter does just fine on defense when the wings arent sieves.

We do not have enough scoring mate this team seems last in the league. We cant afford to have a one way player start. Besides everyone knows this team needs the entire bench healthy just to compete. We need Kanter and hating on him because of a hard on for Gobert is misplaced.

What do you think Kanter is? He's a one way player. And not the good kind, and definitely not at the right position. If there is one thing you want your center to do its protect the rim. Only one or two players can do that. Everyone on the team can be considered a scorer
Only one or two can be your rim protectors.

And you just can't win without rim protection and good defense. Sometimes you can get away with poor rim protection if the rest of your team can play defense, but you still will have a hard time.

Look how desperate the Cavaliers were to get a rim protector. It's basketball 101.

 

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Yep, completely agree. Gobert is one way player and a total scrub, while Kanter is a 3-way player. He plays immense defense, as well as has awesome offensive arsenal... also his bench-warming skills are amazing - he can warm the bench in less than a minute, so he doesn't need to be out of the game for too long. In general we need to play him 44 minutes a game, and get him to the bench only for a minute in each quarter. This way we benefit from his immense defensive and offensive impact, and the bench warmth doesn't suffer either.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

What do you think Kanter is? He's a one way player. And not the good kind, and definitely not at the right position. If there is one thing you want your center to do its protect the rim. Only one or two players can do that. Everyone on the team can be considered a scorer
Only one or two can be your rim protectors.

And you just can't win without rim protection and good defense. Sometimes you can get away with poor rim protection if the rest of your team can play defense, but you still will have a hard time.

Look how desperate the Cavaliers were to get a rim protector. It's basketball 101.

Thats a good point but your argument is essentially you have to pick your poison with this team. Thats exactly what I'm saying only use these guys situationally to limit the poison. The Jazz are very bad for stretches with Gobert in (minus 20 minus nine in games where Favors was basically even). We need Kanter in those games and need him big.

 

[Hotdog]

Thats a good point but your argument is essentially you have to pick your poison with this team. Thats exactly what I'm saying only use these guys situationally to limit the poison. The Jazz are very bad for stretches with Gobert in (minus 20 minus nine in games where Favors was basically even). We need Kanter in those games and need him big.

What games are you watching? It surely isn't the Jazz. The Jazz are way better with Rudy on the floor. It's undeniable.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

What games are you watching? It surely isn't the Jazz. The Jazz are way better with Rudy on the floor. It's undeniable.

What games arent you watching? The Jazz are terrible in long stretches with Rudy on the floor. Its undeniable.

Now stop trolling me.

 

[Dumb Bloke]

We would have beat OKC if Enes could have came in during the second quarter and controlled the pace.

 

[Siro]

What games arent you watching? The Jazz are terrible in long stretches with Rudy on the floor. Its undeniable.

Now stop trolling me.

 

[JAZZGASM]

There are valid points to both of these arguments. Gobert, while he is getting better, is not an offensive threat at this time. When he is in the game with Favors (not his fault alone) the offense often (not always) stagnates. Favors has been more aggressive over the past couple of games, but I don't know if he has the drive/personality to keep it up. Hopefully he does. Kanter is a better one on one creator compared to Favors. Favors should play when we have scorers that can create, like Hayward on the floor. When we have our scrub backcourt in with Gobert and Favors up front, we get in trouble. That is when Kanter could be a very valuable tool to this team. If we can shore up the defense of our back court and get healthy, a front court rotation of Kanter/Favors/Gobert will be very good. Neither Favors or Kanter are good defenders, but they appear worse than they are due to the horrible back court D.

The biggest issue I see is the adjustments that need to be made with defensive spacing. When Gobert is in the game, we don't need near as much weakside help from our wings, so there is no reason to give up as many weakside open 3s. The players need to make a mental adjustment when Gobert is in the game.