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[fishonjazz]

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President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House could be a bumpy ride because he has not pledged to avoid conflicts of interest, among other ethical concerns, while in office.

Trump’s transition team missed the Oct. 1 deadline to submit an ethics plan in accordance with the Presidential Transition Act. What’s more is NYT reported that Trump’s assembled transition team has refused to participate in the established transition process, usually beginning months before elections.

The team has also missed numerous deadlines for signing agreements required to participate in national security meetings and to gain access to federal agencies.

Trump was the very reason Congress amended the Presidential Transition Act law in 2019, which requires candidates to post an ethics plan with “information on how eligible presidential candidates will address their own conflicts of interest during a presidential term.”

 

[fishonjazz]

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[Al-O-Meter]

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President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House could be a bumpy ride because he has not pledged to avoid conflicts of interest, among other ethical concerns, while in office.

Trump’s transition team missed the Oct. 1 deadline to submit an ethics plan in accordance with the Presidential Transition Act. What’s more is NYT reported that Trump’s assembled transition team has refused to participate in the established transition process, usually beginning months before elections.

The team has also missed numerous deadlines for signing agreements required to participate in national security meetings and to gain access to federal agencies.

Trump was the very reason Congress amended the Presidential Transition Act law in 2019, which requires candidates to post an ethics plan with “information on how eligible presidential candidates will address their own conflicts of interest during a presidential term.”

The Presidential Transition Act is what facilitates the involvement of the GSA in helping the President Elect. As I wrote in reply to str8 when he brought up how Trump seems to want to have nothing to do with GSA, Trump's crew isn't stupid. The raid on Mar-o-Lago was due to a sketchy delivery of pallets from GSA. The Trump team has no way of knowing who they can trust and who they cannot over at GSA. It is best to keep the entire agency as arms length and use their own people as much as possible.

Agency Had 'Pallets' Of Docs Sent To Mar-A-Lago A Year Before Raid

A federal agency sent two pallets of 'document boxes' to Mar-a-Lago, one year before Special Counsel Jack Smith's team raided the residence.

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As your article noted, Trump's staff has already drafted an ethics statement. They aren't submitting it, which means per the Presidential Transition Act, the GSA has to stay away from them. If I were an employee of the GSA, I'd make sure my resume was up to date.

 

[gandalfe]

2.1 out of 100,000 transgender people means 6.3 total in the U.S. 6.3 total surgeries.

This is a MAJOR issue for Trump supporters.

The idea that gender affirming care is PUSHED on kids is ludicrous. Absolutely not how anything works.

I think your decimal points are off. Assuming you're rounding to 300,000,000 people in the US, that would be 6,300 surgeries. Population is actually about 10% higher than that, 334m, so call it an even 7,000 surgeries. That's approximately 1/2 of the number of murders committed by firearm.

 

[gandalfe]

There always have been limits and rules in sports silly. That is not a new concept. I think its ok to have limits and rules in sports. But not in simply going about your daily, non competitive sports, life of being you. If a sport decided that they weren't going to let fishonjazz be in it then i could live with that but if society decided that fishonjazz cant exist then i would have more of a problem with that.

I don't think Michael Phelps should be allowed to compete in the Special Olympics. Does that make me anti-Michael Phelps, or anti-abled?

 

[gandalfe]

Also, as far as schools notifying parents about children's behavior, that happens all the time. My parents found out I needed glasses because I had a teacher that told them that at the beginning of the year I always sat in the back of the class, but by mid-year I was sitting in the front of the class. It was a behavior change worth mentioning to the parents. I think if Billy comes to school one day and says "now my pronouns are she/her" it is worth mentioning to the parents so they can provide the proper support, if they were not aware. And yes it is the parent's responsibility to handle that kind of transition with their children, not the school.

But that is just like, you know, my opinion, man.

The difference is that no parents (well, very few) would beat, disown, or kick their child out for needing glasses.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't think Michael Phelps should be allowed to compete in the Special Olympics. Does that make me anti-Michael Phelps, or anti-abled?

I would say that would make you anti Michael Phelps in the special Olympics but not anti Michael Phelps and also not anti abled.

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[Sardines]

I think your decimal points are off. Assuming you're rounding to 300,000,000 people in the US, that would be 6,300 surgeries. Population is actually about 10% higher than that, 334m, so call it an even 7,000 surgeries. That's approximately 1/2 of the number of murders committed by firearm.

Is not 2.1 per 100,000 of the entire population. It's 2.1 out of every 100,000 transgender people as I read it. There are approx 300,000 transgenfer people in the U.S. or less than 1/3 of the people in the U.S. who died from COVID19, which I've been assured was no big deal and hardly anyone was dying.

 

[LogGrad98]

The difference is that no parents (well, very few) would beat, disown, or kick their child out for needing glasses.

Yes but I don't want schools policing that. It's just not their place frankly. If there are signs of abuse then yes, report it to the authorities, just like any other form of abuse. But hiding behavior from parents should not be up to the school's discretion. If it doesn't occur to them to mention it that's one thing, but wantonly withholding information is something else entirely.

 

[The Thriller]

Yes but I don't want schools policing that. It's just not their place frankly. If there are signs of abuse then yes, report it to the authorities, just like any other form of abuse. But hiding behavior from parents should not be up to the school's discretion. If it doesn't occur to them to mention it that's one thing, but wantonly withholding information is something else entirely.

Are schools withholding information from parents? Are there documented cases of this happening? How prevalent are these, is this a systemic problem or a problem with some rogue educators?

Or is this yet again one of those Republican scare stories that some moron on dudebro podcast inc spouted off and now a bunch of right wingers are grifting and culture warring off of it?

It’s sort of weird to me how we exhaust so much time and energy talking about trans issues. Who here has a trans friend or even has a trans person in their social circles? Id say child neglect, abuse, and lack of overall support are much greater issues in education. Yet, those issues are boring and aren’t culture war fodder for dudebro podcasts and Fox News.

 

[The Thriller]

A clown had been elected there will be a circus.

Indeed. And I hope voters feel the circus this time. Democrats and principled republicans staved the circus’s impact last time. Hopefully they don’t this time and the electorate feels the full circus.

 

[LogGrad98]

Are schools withholding information from parents? Are there documented cases of this happening? How prevalent are these, is this a systemic problem or a problem with some rogue educators?

Or is this yet again one of those Republican scare stories that some moron on dudebro podcast inc spouted off and now a bunch of right wingers are grifting and culture warring off of it?

It’s sort of weird to me how we exhaust so much time and energy talking about trans issues. Who here has a trans friend or even has a trans person in their social circles? Id say child neglect, abuse, and lack of overall support are much greater issues in education. Yet, those issues are boring and aren’t culture war fodder for dudebro podcasts and Fox News.

The purpose of laws guidelines and regulations are partly to anticipate and mitigate issues before they arise. We shouldn't wait until everything happens that can before we set guidelines in place and in fact we don't. My daughter's last school had a rule that you cannot bring a weapon you school. They had never had an incident like that but they wanted to be preemptive about it. I'm fine setting some standards on what schools can and cannot police in regards to our children especially in issues that can affect their development long-term. And in fact we do that now. Why are you against setting some basic standards in this regard? See it's just Democrats wanting to instil their doctrine with no oversight. See I can say that about both of you. I don't see anything wrong with setting standards like this. We say all the time, see something, say something, but for some reason Democrats vehemently want to add the caveat "except when it comes to your children in schools, then the school says what they want to". Why is that?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Are schools withholding information from parents? Are there documented cases of this happening?

Yes. It was a district policy near to where I live. Two teachers sued the district, the governor, and the attorney general to stop it. A judge stopped the school district.

Judge grants injunction favoring Escondido teachers who sued over student gender-identity policy

“Our leadership team is currently reviewing the decision,” a spokeswoman with the Escondido Union School District said after the ruling.

www.nbcsandiego.com

 

[The Thriller]

The purpose of laws guidelines and regulations are partly to anticipate and mitigate issues before they arise. We shouldn't wait until everything happens that can before we set guidelines in place and in fact we don't. My daughter's last school had a rule that you cannot bring a weapon you school. They had never had an incident like that but they wanted to be preemptive about it. I'm fine setting some standards on what schools can and cannot police in regards to our children especially in issues that can affect their development long-term. And in fact we do that now. Why are you against setting some basic standards in this regard? See it's just Democrats wanting to instil their doctrine with no oversight. See I can say that about both of you. I don't see anything wrong with setting standards like this. We say all the time, see something, say something, but for some reason Democrats vehemently want to add the caveat "except when it comes to your children in schools, then the school says what they want to". Why is that?

In Utah at least, by law educators must notify parents of these types of behaviors (this isn’t anything new either). I believe most states do. Some may have to refine their code and make it more specific. But that’s another issue. Students are minors and are considered minors with little privacy protection. Meaning, schools notify parents and authorities for all types of behaviors.

So again, is this really a prevalent issue? Or is this once again, dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters culture warring? To use your example, we’re now debating whether or not schools should allow weapons when they’ve already been banned by state law. But dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters have found that blowing disinformation into society’s rhetoric makes it sound like weapons at school is up for debate and educators are pushing for students to bring weapons to school to serve some nefarious liberal purpose.

 

[fishonjazz]

In Utah at least, by law educators must notify parents of these types of behaviors (this isn’t anything new either). I believe most states do. Some may have to refine their code and make it more specific. But that’s another issue. Students are minors and are considered minors with little privacy protection. Meaning, schools notify parents and authorities for all types of behaviors.

So again, is this really a prevalent issue? Or is this once again, dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters culture warring? To use your example, we’re now debating whether or not schools should allow weapons when they’ve already been banned by state law. But dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters have found that blowing disinformation into society’s rhetoric makes it sound like weapons at school is up for debate and educators are pushing for students to bring weapons to school to serve some nefarious liberal purpose.

I said it before and I will say it again. I cant put NEOSPORIN on a childs scraped knee without parental permission. I dont think that teachers being sneaky with kids parents is a big issue. (I dont know for sure however)

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I said it before and I will say it again. I cant put NEOSPORIN on a childs scraped knee without parental permission. I dont think that teachers being sneaky with kids parents is a big issue. (I dont know for sure however)

You live in a Red state. It isn't an issue where you live.

 

[The Thriller]

I said it before and I will say it again. I cant put NEOSPORIN on a childs scraped knee without parental permission. I dont think that teachers being sneaky with kids parents is a big issue. (I dont know for sure however)

No one has shown you the wiener cutting room? It’s next to the copier. Looks like this:

Kids go in there, talk to the woke gay teacher with red hair and a Obama tattoo, pay a small fee, get their wieners chopped off, and receive a free chocolate carton of milk. The best part is, no one has to disclose this parents! Yay! Keeping secrets from parents makes teachers and hitlery Clinton happy even though most teachers at your school are most likely white, conservative, and LDS and would be livid if teachers withheld information about their kids.

 

[gandalfe]

The first and second of the Good takes are awesome, frankly.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmzm0i5ptQ

 

[fishonjazz]

Another silver lining.
Everyone can see that a Republican can win the popular vote so the fear that new York and LA would decide every president without the electoral college isnt true

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[The Thriller]

The purpose of laws guidelines and regulations are partly to anticipate and mitigate issues before they arise. We shouldn't wait until everything happens that can before we set guidelines in place and in fact we don't. My daughter's last school had a rule that you cannot bring a weapon you school. They had never had an incident like that but they wanted to be preemptive about it. I'm fine setting some standards on what schools can and cannot police in regards to our children especially in issues that can affect their development long-term. And in fact we do that now. Why are you against setting some basic standards in this regard? See it's just Democrats wanting to instil their doctrine with no oversight. See I can say that about both of you. I don't see anything wrong with setting standards like this. We say all the time, see something, say something, but for some reason Democrats vehemently want to add the caveat "except when it comes to your children in schools, then the school says what they want to". Why is that?

I read a little more about California’s AB1955. That actually makes sense. It doesn’t ban educators from communicating home but it makes it so they aren’t required. Which actually makes a lot of sense from a litigation standpoint. A parent wants some easy money so they accuse the district of withholding information because at some point their student told someone at the school (teacher, principal, custodian, bus driver, etc) about something related to gender dysphoria and it wasn’t immediately reported home. This law allows educators to still contact home but eliminates the requirement to contact home. I’m not sure how I feel about that as I tend to error on safety when it comes to school/home relations. But I definitely get from the viewpoint of ending drama and ending frivolous lawsuits, removing this requirement.

I don’t think the public knows how often parents accuse district employees (and volunteers) of stupid things to get free money. Here in Utah a kid skipped class the last week of school to have sex with his girlfriend. His parents then sued the district for it because him having sex violated his religious rights and that the district should’ve done more to enforce attendance. Anyone here remember the last week of high school? How do you keep attendance on a yearbook day?

California AB 1955: What Is the SAFETY Act? - Plural Policy

California AB 1955, or the SAFETY Act, became law on July 15th. What does it mean for parents, students, and teachers? Learn more today.

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The core argument of the complaint, she wrote, was that since the district gave students free time during the final week of school, it did not do enough “to aid their efforts as parents to prevent [their son] JD from having sex.”

But the parents, identified only as John and Jane Doe, “have not provided any authority supporting the proposition that the government has a constitutional duty to help them parent JD,” Parrish decided.

The parents had hoped to block the district from relaxing attendance rules for the end of the school year, according to their lawsuit.

A Utah teen had sex at school. Here’s why his Latter-day Saint parents sued the district — and lost.

After Utah County parents discovered their son was having sex with his girlfriend during school hours, they sued the Alpine School District.

www.sltrib.com