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[fishonjazz]

I think it really depends on the sport. I also think it should depend on age, as I remember that most, if not all, sporting activities in elementary school, when I was in elementary school, were co-ed. Wasn't a problem and wasn't a political issue.

Contact sports involving teens or above, maybe transgender girls shouldn't be allowed.

The darts team, probably okay if they are allowed. Chess team, seems okay.

Ya I'm also against a 200 pound woman fighting against a 120 pound woman in MMA.
I'm against a woman with legs competing against a woman without legs in the special Olympics.
I don't think a 20 years woman should compete against a 14 year old.
There are lots of different types of woman. Not all of them should be allowed to compete against the other ones. Trans woman is a type of woman as well. I dont know how the sports world should handle trans women. I don't think the president should have **** all to do with it though, that's for sure and how sports handle trans women won't affect how I vote for president at all.
But I do think all of those people should be able to live their lives however they want outside the world of sports as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

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[fishonjazz]

One kind of funny thing this discussion reminded me of: when I was in my 20's I had a friend playing in a really fun basketball league where they used 9 foot hoops. I wasn't allowed to play in that league though because you had to be under 6 feet tall and I was 6 foot 3.

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[LogGrad98]

Who is pushing what? You absolutely have no idea how this process works. You think there is peer pressure to put your kid on hormone blockers? Get ****ing real, man.

In some circles there is, but it is absolutely not wide-spread, but there are communities, even on facebook, one of them was called "Trans-mommies" or something like that and it was a bunch of 20-somethings showing off their "trans" 3 year-old's pictures, and the more androgenous they could make them look the more accolades they got from the group. My wife went down this particular rabbit hole when our daughter moved in with her trans partner, and my wife wanted to try to understand their lifestyle. There are some really messed up people out there.

How (and why) I introduced gender identity to my 3-year-old son

My husband and I are striving to raise our children outside the confines of traditional gender norms. We are not raising our kids without gender influences altogether, but we are actively trying to…

strivingparent.com

It must be remembered that children are insanely impressionable and programmed to seek out new experiences, and to want to belong. And they are notoriously bad at making life-altering decisions.

Also, as far as schools notifying parents about children's behavior, that happens all the time. My parents found out I needed glasses because I had a teacher that told them that at the beginning of the year I always sat in the back of the class, but by mid-year I was sitting in the front of the class. It was a behavior change worth mentioning to the parents. I think if Billy comes to school one day and says "now my pronouns are she/her" it is worth mentioning to the parents so they can provide the proper support, if they were not aware. And yes it is the parent's responsibility to handle that kind of transition with their children, not the school.

But that is just like, you know, my opinion, man.

 

[fishonjazz]

MSN

President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House could be a bumpy ride because he has not pledged to avoid conflicts of interest, among other ethical concerns, while in office.

Trump’s transition team missed the Oct. 1 deadline to submit an ethics plan in accordance with the Presidential Transition Act. What’s more is NYT reported that Trump’s assembled transition team has refused to participate in the established transition process, usually beginning months before elections.

The team has also missed numerous deadlines for signing agreements required to participate in national security meetings and to gain access to federal agencies.

Trump was the very reason Congress amended the Presidential Transition Act law in 2019, which requires candidates to post an ethics plan with “information on how eligible presidential candidates will address their own conflicts of interest during a presidential term.”

 

[fishonjazz]

MSN

 

[Al-O-Meter]

MSN

President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House could be a bumpy ride because he has not pledged to avoid conflicts of interest, among other ethical concerns, while in office.

Trump’s transition team missed the Oct. 1 deadline to submit an ethics plan in accordance with the Presidential Transition Act. What’s more is NYT reported that Trump’s assembled transition team has refused to participate in the established transition process, usually beginning months before elections.

The team has also missed numerous deadlines for signing agreements required to participate in national security meetings and to gain access to federal agencies.

Trump was the very reason Congress amended the Presidential Transition Act law in 2019, which requires candidates to post an ethics plan with “information on how eligible presidential candidates will address their own conflicts of interest during a presidential term.”

The Presidential Transition Act is what facilitates the involvement of the GSA in helping the President Elect. As I wrote in reply to str8 when he brought up how Trump seems to want to have nothing to do with GSA, Trump's crew isn't stupid. The raid on Mar-o-Lago was due to a sketchy delivery of pallets from GSA. The Trump team has no way of knowing who they can trust and who they cannot over at GSA. It is best to keep the entire agency as arms length and use their own people as much as possible.

Agency Had 'Pallets' Of Docs Sent To Mar-A-Lago A Year Before Raid

A federal agency sent two pallets of 'document boxes' to Mar-a-Lago, one year before Special Counsel Jack Smith's team raided the residence.

thefederalist.com

As your article noted, Trump's staff has already drafted an ethics statement. They aren't submitting it, which means per the Presidential Transition Act, the GSA has to stay away from them. If I were an employee of the GSA, I'd make sure my resume was up to date.

 

[gandalfe]

2.1 out of 100,000 transgender people means 6.3 total in the U.S. 6.3 total surgeries.

This is a MAJOR issue for Trump supporters.

The idea that gender affirming care is PUSHED on kids is ludicrous. Absolutely not how anything works.

I think your decimal points are off. Assuming you're rounding to 300,000,000 people in the US, that would be 6,300 surgeries. Population is actually about 10% higher than that, 334m, so call it an even 7,000 surgeries. That's approximately 1/2 of the number of murders committed by firearm.

 

[gandalfe]

There always have been limits and rules in sports silly. That is not a new concept. I think its ok to have limits and rules in sports. But not in simply going about your daily, non competitive sports, life of being you. If a sport decided that they weren't going to let fishonjazz be in it then i could live with that but if society decided that fishonjazz cant exist then i would have more of a problem with that.

I don't think Michael Phelps should be allowed to compete in the Special Olympics. Does that make me anti-Michael Phelps, or anti-abled?

 

[gandalfe]

Also, as far as schools notifying parents about children's behavior, that happens all the time. My parents found out I needed glasses because I had a teacher that told them that at the beginning of the year I always sat in the back of the class, but by mid-year I was sitting in the front of the class. It was a behavior change worth mentioning to the parents. I think if Billy comes to school one day and says "now my pronouns are she/her" it is worth mentioning to the parents so they can provide the proper support, if they were not aware. And yes it is the parent's responsibility to handle that kind of transition with their children, not the school.

But that is just like, you know, my opinion, man.

The difference is that no parents (well, very few) would beat, disown, or kick their child out for needing glasses.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't think Michael Phelps should be allowed to compete in the Special Olympics. Does that make me anti-Michael Phelps, or anti-abled?

I would say that would make you anti Michael Phelps in the special Olympics but not anti Michael Phelps and also not anti abled.

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[Sardines]

I think your decimal points are off. Assuming you're rounding to 300,000,000 people in the US, that would be 6,300 surgeries. Population is actually about 10% higher than that, 334m, so call it an even 7,000 surgeries. That's approximately 1/2 of the number of murders committed by firearm.

Is not 2.1 per 100,000 of the entire population. It's 2.1 out of every 100,000 transgender people as I read it. There are approx 300,000 transgenfer people in the U.S. or less than 1/3 of the people in the U.S. who died from COVID19, which I've been assured was no big deal and hardly anyone was dying.

 

[LogGrad98]

The difference is that no parents (well, very few) would beat, disown, or kick their child out for needing glasses.

Yes but I don't want schools policing that. It's just not their place frankly. If there are signs of abuse then yes, report it to the authorities, just like any other form of abuse. But hiding behavior from parents should not be up to the school's discretion. If it doesn't occur to them to mention it that's one thing, but wantonly withholding information is something else entirely.