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[Deleted member 365]

Yes but I don't want schools policing that. It's just not their place frankly. If there are signs of abuse then yes, report it to the authorities, just like any other form of abuse. But hiding behavior from parents should not be up to the school's discretion. If it doesn't occur to them to mention it that's one thing, but wantonly withholding information is something else entirely.

Are schools withholding information from parents? Are there documented cases of this happening? How prevalent are these, is this a systemic problem or a problem with some rogue educators?

Or is this yet again one of those Republican scare stories that some moron on dudebro podcast inc spouted off and now a bunch of right wingers are grifting and culture warring off of it?

It’s sort of weird to me how we exhaust so much time and energy talking about trans issues. Who here has a trans friend or even has a trans person in their social circles? Id say child neglect, abuse, and lack of overall support are much greater issues in education. Yet, those issues are boring and aren’t culture war fodder for dudebro podcasts and Fox News.

 

[Deleted member 365]

A clown had been elected there will be a circus.

Indeed. And I hope voters feel the circus this time. Democrats and principled republicans staved the circus’s impact last time. Hopefully they don’t this time and the electorate feels the full circus.

 

[LogGrad98]

Are schools withholding information from parents? Are there documented cases of this happening? How prevalent are these, is this a systemic problem or a problem with some rogue educators?

Or is this yet again one of those Republican scare stories that some moron on dudebro podcast inc spouted off and now a bunch of right wingers are grifting and culture warring off of it?

It’s sort of weird to me how we exhaust so much time and energy talking about trans issues. Who here has a trans friend or even has a trans person in their social circles? Id say child neglect, abuse, and lack of overall support are much greater issues in education. Yet, those issues are boring and aren’t culture war fodder for dudebro podcasts and Fox News.

The purpose of laws guidelines and regulations are partly to anticipate and mitigate issues before they arise. We shouldn't wait until everything happens that can before we set guidelines in place and in fact we don't. My daughter's last school had a rule that you cannot bring a weapon you school. They had never had an incident like that but they wanted to be preemptive about it. I'm fine setting some standards on what schools can and cannot police in regards to our children especially in issues that can affect their development long-term. And in fact we do that now. Why are you against setting some basic standards in this regard? See it's just Democrats wanting to instil their doctrine with no oversight. See I can say that about both of you. I don't see anything wrong with setting standards like this. We say all the time, see something, say something, but for some reason Democrats vehemently want to add the caveat "except when it comes to your children in schools, then the school says what they want to". Why is that?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Are schools withholding information from parents? Are there documented cases of this happening?

Yes. It was a district policy near to where I live. Two teachers sued the district, the governor, and the attorney general to stop it. A judge stopped the school district.

Judge grants injunction favoring Escondido teachers who sued over student gender-identity policy

“Our leadership team is currently reviewing the decision,” a spokeswoman with the Escondido Union School District said after the ruling.

www.nbcsandiego.com

 

[Deleted member 365]

The purpose of laws guidelines and regulations are partly to anticipate and mitigate issues before they arise. We shouldn't wait until everything happens that can before we set guidelines in place and in fact we don't. My daughter's last school had a rule that you cannot bring a weapon you school. They had never had an incident like that but they wanted to be preemptive about it. I'm fine setting some standards on what schools can and cannot police in regards to our children especially in issues that can affect their development long-term. And in fact we do that now. Why are you against setting some basic standards in this regard? See it's just Democrats wanting to instil their doctrine with no oversight. See I can say that about both of you. I don't see anything wrong with setting standards like this. We say all the time, see something, say something, but for some reason Democrats vehemently want to add the caveat "except when it comes to your children in schools, then the school says what they want to". Why is that?

In Utah at least, by law educators must notify parents of these types of behaviors (this isn’t anything new either). I believe most states do. Some may have to refine their code and make it more specific. But that’s another issue. Students are minors and are considered minors with little privacy protection. Meaning, schools notify parents and authorities for all types of behaviors.

So again, is this really a prevalent issue? Or is this once again, dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters culture warring? To use your example, we’re now debating whether or not schools should allow weapons when they’ve already been banned by state law. But dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters have found that blowing disinformation into society’s rhetoric makes it sound like weapons at school is up for debate and educators are pushing for students to bring weapons to school to serve some nefarious liberal purpose.

 

[fishonjazz]

In Utah at least, by law educators must notify parents of these types of behaviors (this isn’t anything new either). I believe most states do. Some may have to refine their code and make it more specific. But that’s another issue. Students are minors and are considered minors with little privacy protection. Meaning, schools notify parents and authorities for all types of behaviors.

So again, is this really a prevalent issue? Or is this once again, dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters culture warring? To use your example, we’re now debating whether or not schools should allow weapons when they’ve already been banned by state law. But dudebro podcasts and right wing grifters have found that blowing disinformation into society’s rhetoric makes it sound like weapons at school is up for debate and educators are pushing for students to bring weapons to school to serve some nefarious liberal purpose.

I said it before and I will say it again. I cant put NEOSPORIN on a childs scraped knee without parental permission. I dont think that teachers being sneaky with kids parents is a big issue. (I dont know for sure however)

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I said it before and I will say it again. I cant put NEOSPORIN on a childs scraped knee without parental permission. I dont think that teachers being sneaky with kids parents is a big issue. (I dont know for sure however)

You live in a Red state. It isn't an issue where you live.

 

[gandalfe]

The first and second of the Good takes are awesome, frankly.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDmzm0i5ptQ

 

[fishonjazz]

Another silver lining.
Everyone can see that a Republican can win the popular vote so the fear that new York and LA would decide every president without the electoral college isnt true

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[Deleted member 365]

The purpose of laws guidelines and regulations are partly to anticipate and mitigate issues before they arise. We shouldn't wait until everything happens that can before we set guidelines in place and in fact we don't. My daughter's last school had a rule that you cannot bring a weapon you school. They had never had an incident like that but they wanted to be preemptive about it. I'm fine setting some standards on what schools can and cannot police in regards to our children especially in issues that can affect their development long-term. And in fact we do that now. Why are you against setting some basic standards in this regard? See it's just Democrats wanting to instil their doctrine with no oversight. See I can say that about both of you. I don't see anything wrong with setting standards like this. We say all the time, see something, say something, but for some reason Democrats vehemently want to add the caveat "except when it comes to your children in schools, then the school says what they want to". Why is that?

I read a little more about California’s AB1955. That actually makes sense. It doesn’t ban educators from communicating home but it makes it so they aren’t required. Which actually makes a lot of sense from a litigation standpoint. A parent wants some easy money so they accuse the district of withholding information because at some point their student told someone at the school (teacher, principal, custodian, bus driver, etc) about something related to gender dysphoria and it wasn’t immediately reported home. This law allows educators to still contact home but eliminates the requirement to contact home. I’m not sure how I feel about that as I tend to error on safety when it comes to school/home relations. But I definitely get from the viewpoint of ending drama and ending frivolous lawsuits, removing this requirement.

I don’t think the public knows how often parents accuse district employees (and volunteers) of stupid things to get free money. Here in Utah a kid skipped class the last week of school to have sex with his girlfriend. His parents then sued the district for it because him having sex violated his religious rights and that the district should’ve done more to enforce attendance. Anyone here remember the last week of high school? How do you keep attendance on a yearbook day?

California AB 1955: What Is the SAFETY Act? - Plural Policy

California AB 1955, or the SAFETY Act, became law on July 15th. What does it mean for parents, students, and teachers? Learn more today.

pluralpolicy.com

The core argument of the complaint, she wrote, was that since the district gave students free time during the final week of school, it did not do enough “to aid their efforts as parents to prevent [their son] JD from having sex.”

But the parents, identified only as John and Jane Doe, “have not provided any authority supporting the proposition that the government has a constitutional duty to help them parent JD,” Parrish decided.

The parents had hoped to block the district from relaxing attendance rules for the end of the school year, according to their lawsuit.

A Utah teen had sex at school. Here’s why his Latter-day Saint parents sued the district — and lost.

After Utah County parents discovered their son was having sex with his girlfriend during school hours, they sued the Alpine School District.

www.sltrib.com

 

[enchilada_style]

Ya I'm also against a 200 pound woman fighting against a 120 pound woman in MMA.
I'm against a woman with legs competing against a woman without legs in the special Olympics.
I don't think a 20 years woman should compete against a 14 year old.
There are lots of different types of woman. Not all of them should be allowed to compete against the other ones. Trans woman is a type of woman as well. I dont know how the sports world should handle trans women. I don't think the president should have **** all to do with it though, that's for sure and how sports handle trans women won't affect how I vote for president at all.
But I do think all of those people should be able to live their lives however they want outside the world of sports as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

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Solid take.

 

[Sardines]

Another silver lining.
Everyone can see that a Republican can win the popular vote so the fear that new York and LA would decide every president without the electoral college isnt true

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You presented a silver lining a little bit back. In four years we can elect Mayor Pete instead of deciding if we want to re-elect Harris.

I watched a video he was in a day or two before the election where he took on 20 "undecided" voters and countered all their arguments for not voting for Kamala. He is smart, sincere, knowledgeable and a very good communicator.

Now I just need to learn how to spell his last name without looking it up.