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[fishonjazz]

How is only allowing the criminals to have guns moral? The hypocrisy...

I don't think the law would say that criminals can have guns but non criminals can't.
That wouldn't make sense.
When criminals get caught with guns they would get taken away and the criminal would get punished I think

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm not trolling. That's the whole point, if you ban guns most citizens will follow the law just to not get in trouble while as the evil-doers will still get access to guns one way or another, in the black market etc... So basically it would be a ban aimed at responsible citizens. It's just logical thinking.

No the ban would be aimed at the black market as well

 

[fishonjazz]

Then maybe in 60-70 years criminals wont really have them.

That's a great thought.
We can only dream

 

[Stoked]

No the ban would be aimed at the black market as well

And how well has that worked on drugs? How well did it work during prohibition? Or on any banned substance for that matter.

Simply outlawing something doesn't work as long as there is a demand. There will always be a demand for guns in America. Hell people can 3D print them at home now.

 

[Stoked]

That's a great thought.
We can only dream

That's the point. It is only a dream and not realistic.

So let's focus on realistic things that might make a change for the better instead of sticking our heads in the clouds while nothing gets done.

 

[fishonjazz]

That's the point. It is only a dream and not realistic.

So let's focus on realistic things that might make a change for the better instead of sticking our heads in the clouds while nothing gets done.

I'm just glad Martin Luther King didn't think this way

 

[Jamezz]

No the ban would be aimed at the black market as well

A friend once told me I was delusional, I almost fell of my unicorn.

Yes the problem could be solved by destroying all the guns in the world. I admire you're idealistic yet non-realistic view. Crime rate in gun-free Chicago anyone?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

A friend once told me I was delusional, I almost fell of my unicorn.

Yes the problem could be solved by destroying all the guns in the world. I admire you're idealistic yet non-realistic view. Crime rate in gun-free Chicago anyone?

Crime rate would still be pretty high. The death rate would certainly be lower though.

 

[fishonjazz]

A friend once told me I was delusional, I almost fell of my unicorn.

Yes the problem could be solved by destroying all the guns in the world. I admire you're idealistic yet non-realistic view. Crime rate in gun-free Chicago anyone?

I'm sure people told columbus he was delusional when he said the earth was round and he could sail to new lands.
The Wright brothers were delusional for trying to achieve flight.
NASA was delusional for thinking that something could be launched into space.
MLK was delusional for believing in equality as were gay folks.
Black president? Never happen
Hell there was probably a time when the thought of a gun was delusional. Yet here we are


Lots of things seem unrealistic but get achieved anyway

 

[Stoked]

I'm just glad Martin Luther King didn't think this way

Civil rights =/= gun ownership.

But sure, keep advocating for gun bans and getting shot down. Over and over and over because the courts and constitution don't buy your argument of banning guns is the morally right thing to do.

I'll be over here discussing realistic steps towards solving the problem. Like gun education, improved back round checks, improving the process to get a CC permit, border security...

 

[fishonjazz]

Civil rights =/= gun ownership.

But sure, keep advocating for gun bans and getting shot down. Over and over and over because the courts and constitution don't buy your argument of banning guns is the morally right thing to do.

I'll be over here discussing realistic steps towards solving the problem. Like gun education, improved back round checks, improving the process to get a CC permit, border security...

I don't advocate anything. And I have 2 guns in my house.
I just think there being less guns would be a good thing and I think that lots of things that were once thought of as impossible or unrealistic have already happened

 

[JimLes]

I'm not trolling. That's the whole point, if you ban guns most citizens will follow the law just to not get in trouble while as the evil-doers will still get access to guns one way or another, in the black market etc... So basically it would be a ban aimed at responsible citizens. It's just logical thinking.

All bans are aimed at responsible citizens. That's the nature of any law.