"We're going to war, bro."

[Miggs]

Us too my Iranian brotha, us too.

 

[str8line]

Trump nearly brought death to thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands. He is playing war games like it's fiction TV. You have to be really dumb to support this insanity. My estimation of Iran has gone up and my estimation of Trump has remained the same. He's Hitler.

 

[reignman40]

I think there's more to this.

• I think Iran showed that they have cruise missiles and are no longer scared to use them (because we escalated this situation to such a degree). I can't remember any time recently where an enemy has used cruise missiles against us. New era in warfare?
• However, even then, their measured response for them to show strength while giving the Trump administration an exit ramp. So well played Iranian leadership! Glad to see at least one side has adults in the room. Trump nearly bumbled himself into war.
• Hezbollah reported that they wouldn't attack any cultural sites. When a terrorist organization looks better than your country's leadership, you know it's bad...
• I think Iraq now has even more reason to kick us out. They don't want other countries shooting cruise missiles into their country in attempts to get at American forces.
• Finally, America continues to look like a dysfunctional nation completely unprepared for war. We continuously alienate our allies. We are led by a child and his party will stand by him no matter the cost. Why wouldn't Russia, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and China push the bounds of what's acceptable?

I felt safer with Soleimani still alive but Iran abiding by the nuclear deal than with Soleimani dead and America voiding the nuclear deal.

Yet I spew nonsense apparently.... holy **** dude.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yet I spew nonsense apparently.... holy **** dude.

that’s because you don’t understand that nuclear weapons are worse than conventional weapons because you’re an irrational person. Not shredding deals is a good thing. Working with other countries and not assassinating their leaders is a good thing. Not alienating your allies is a good thing. Not committing war crimes is a good thing. You argue about these things because you’re an irrational person sucking on Trump’s ****. I think you’re done here.

 

[Miggs]

This is for the "They hate us for for our freedoms" crowd.

okay, this dude seems like a nice enough guy. He very well may be. But let me play devil’s advocate.

What’s he crying over? That their leader is dead? I’m legitimately wondering. Because, and correct me if I’m wrong, that dude was the main strategist for a lot of their ****ed up ****. So...I’m not saying assassinating him was a good thing. There is such a thing as finesse and subtlety. And, well, laws.

But what’s this dude crying over? Wouldn’t it be like me crying over a POS like Trump? Or North Koreans crying over Doughboy?

So my point is, as cool as this cat seems, is he really so rational about it all?

 

[Zombie]

okay, this dude seems like a nice enough guy. He very well may be. But let me play devil’s advocate.

What’s he crying over? That their leader is dead? I’m legitimately wondering. Because, and correct me if I’m wrong, that dude was the main strategist for a lot of their ****ed up ****. So...I’m not saying assassinating him was a good thing. There is such a thing as finesse and subtlety. And, well, laws.

But what’s this dude crying over? Wouldn’t it be like me crying over a POS like Trump? Or North Koreans crying over Doughboy?

So my point is, as cool as this cat seems, is he really so rational about it all?

Well, I'm not going to pretend that I understand the psychology of the Iranian people. I know that he was widely (though not universally) regarded as a national hero. I would imagine there's an element of fear in his emotions though. Fear about what was going to happen next- a war in Iran would be much more devasting to the average Iranian than it would for those of us living here.

 

[Eminence]

okay, this dude seems like a nice enough guy. He very well may be. But let me play devil’s advocate.

What’s he crying over? That their leader is dead? I’m legitimately wondering. Because, and correct me if I’m wrong, that dude was the main strategist for a lot of their ****ed up ****. So...I’m not saying assassinating him was a good thing. There is such a thing as finesse and subtlety. And, well, laws.

But what’s this dude crying over? Wouldn’t it be like me crying over a POS like Trump? Or North Koreans crying over Doughboy?

So my point is, as cool as this cat seems, is he really so rational about it all?

Decent chance that dude doesn't know all that from his media/government feeding him one (and a non-zero chance it's our media/intelligence communities doing the opposite to us, though I don't suspect so in this case). Maybe he's rational about it based on the information available to him.

 

[Red]

Here you go

https://www.aparat.com/v/TuBzI/

That was excellent. I'm a lot more educated about Soleimani now.

And that has to be a huge loss for Iran. Nobody is stepping into his shoes, I don't care who they have in the wings. You don't replace somewhat like that easily.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

okay, this dude seems like a nice enough guy. He very well may be. But let me play devil’s advocate.

What’s he crying over? That their leader is dead? I’m legitimately wondering. Because, and correct me if I’m wrong, that dude was the main strategist for a lot of their ****ed up ****. So...I’m not saying assassinating him was a good thing. There is such a thing as finesse and subtlety. And, well, laws.

But what’s this dude crying over? Wouldn’t it be like me crying over a POS like Trump? Or North Koreans crying over Doughboy?

So my point is, as cool as this cat seems, is he really so rational about it all?

Keep in mind that Iranians can't say what they believe. Most Iranian Americans seem to be celebrating:

 

[Red]

okay, this dude seems like a nice enough guy. He very well may be. But let me play devil’s advocate.

What’s he crying over? That their leader is dead? I’m legitimately wondering. Because, and correct me if I’m wrong, that dude was the main strategist for a lot of their ****ed up ****. So...I’m not saying assassinating him was a good thing. There is such a thing as finesse and subtlety. And, well, laws.

But what’s this dude crying over? Wouldn’t it be like me crying over a POS like Trump? Or North Koreans crying over Doughboy?

So my point is, as cool as this cat seems, is he really so rational about it all?

I recommend the BBC documentary @Zombie left a link to, to help answer that question. As the hero of the 8 year Iran-Iraq war, in which 1 million Iranians died, he'd be highly regarded by many of his countrymen in all likelihood, for that reason alone. And I'm not eulogizing the guy, but, after watching that doc., he was an impressive adversary that would command respect.

 

[Miggs]

I recommend the BBC documentary @Zombie left a link to, to help answer that question. As the hero of the 8 year Iran-Iraq war, in which 1 million Iranians died, he'd be highly regarded by many of his countrymen in all likelihood, for that reason alone. And I'm not eulogizing the guy, but, after watching that doc., he was an impressive adversary that would command respect.

like Rommel.

 

[Red]

like Rommel.

I'm not sure what general from history to compare him to, but one thing I came away with from that documentary is it's hard to believe Iran's response was as "muted" as it was, given everything that guy has meant to furthering the power of Iran throughout the region. I know it's always next man up, and so it will be, but this guy was revered (by the opposite of the Sunni Muslims, the censor won't let me spell out the other branch of Islam, lol), and it's no wonder there were millions at his funeral.

He was revered by the She-ites. There, lol.