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What’s the biggest mistakes the Jazz FO has ever made?

What’s the biggest mistakes the Jazz FO has ever made?

  • Trading Mike Conley to the T’Wolves

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Salaries for Minny will become too expensive if they keep winning. All their scrub players will want to get paid. So Conley being traded there is not the end of the world for the 2027 and 2029 picks.
 
Salaries for Minny will become too expensive if they keep winning. All their scrub players will want to get paid. So Conley being traded there is not the end of the world for the 2027 and 2029 picks.
Yeah, they will have strong crunches in the coming years, hell this coming year if they dont finish strong.

They have their own pick this year. I think they end up getting a Kolek/Nunez/Simpson to try and get someone who could take over for Conley.
 
For me I still have to go back to the Lyles over Devin Booker decision. I think if Booker is around then Hayward sticks around. Hayward left because it was him and not much else offensively to help him take the team to the next level. If Booker is around you have a dynamic duo offensively to go with the best defensively player in the nba. Booker in his second year averaged 22 points a year for the suns and there is no reason to think he couldn't be near that number with us paired with Hayward. Damn that could have been a nasty duo.
 
For me I still have to go back to the Lyles over Devin Booker decision. I think if Booker is around then Hayward sticks around. Hayward left because it was him and not much else offensively to help him take the team to the next level. If Booker is around you have a dynamic duo offensively to go with the best defensively player in the nba. Booker in his second year averaged 22 points a year for the suns and there is no reason to think he couldn't be near that number with us paired with Hayward. Damn that could have been a nasty duo.
I think having Giannis would do a lot more than two years of Booker so your reasoning makes no sense to put the Lyles pick over the Giannis pick. The Lyles pick still was an important cog in a hugely positive move. The Jazz could draft Giannis and still trade Lyles for Mitchell
 
I think having Giannis would do a lot more than two years of Booker so your reasoning makes no sense to put the Lyles pick over the Giannis pick. The Lyles pick still was an important cog in a hugely positive move. The Jazz could draft Giannis and still trade Lyles for Mitchell
Obviously Giannis would be the dream but it's not like jazz fans were clamoring for Giannis before that draft the way we were for Booker. What made the Booker situation so painful is that the majority of knowledgeable jazz fans were locked in on him. He should have been a jazzman but DL ****ed it up. That is also what made the Dok pick extra painful is that we were all so locked in on McDaniels and to a lesser extent Bane.
 
Obviously Giannis would be the dream but it's not like jazz fans were clamoring for Giannis before that draft the way we were for Booker. What made the Booker situation so painful is that the majority of knowledgeable jazz fans were locked in on him. He should have been a jazzman but DL ****ed it up. That is also what made the Dok pick extra painful is that we were all so locked in on McDaniels and to a lesser extent Bane.

Booker refused to workout for Utah. He wasn't an option for us.
 
My definition is something that was patently obvious when the decision happened and does not require hindsight to reinterpret it. For that reason I leave out things like drafting Jokic or Jimmy Butler or Marc Gasol, etc. I only count things that I could see as they were happening. For me, my two biggest ones were Burks over Kawhi and Hayward over Paul George.

Trey Lyles was a dumb pick. It being repackaged as him landing Mitchell is irrelevant. It's like saying Exum wasn't a bust because he was able to return us JC (someone taken in the second round of that same draft).

I was pretty happy about Borchardt (after I had been pissed about us drafting whoever it was we selected to trade for him).

I was totally on board for drafting Kanter.

I was totally on board for drafting Trey Burke.

Gobert wasn't on my radar.

I wasn't interested in Mitchell.

There are hit and misses. I hold a lot of frustration about ones that were obvious to me. On the flip side, they've hit on ones that I wouldn't have considered. I've emotionally burned out on the draft. I'd been getting heavy into it since the Raul Lopez draft and it really has done little to add joy to life but just frustration. After we overrated our first round draft picks "keeping the powder dry," not recognizing that the moment to start cashing them in was immediately when we recognized Donovan was who he was in his rookie season ("teh pick is gon be donchick!") I had completely checked out of draft following to that kind of extent on the Udoka draft. Thank goodness.

Oh, and trading Gobert is something I've always been pissed about every time I think about it. It's taken a lot of wind out of my fan sails. In terms of any decision the franchise has made that's done something like that... it's most certainly that one.
 
Booker refused to workout for Utah. He wasn't an option for us.
He was most definitely an option and you provided no evidence that Booker wouldn't workout for us. Booker was in no position to not go to the team that drafted him.
 
He was most definitely an option and you provided no evidence that Booker wouldn't workout for us. Booker was in no position to not go to the team that drafted him.

Post-draft Kalipari mentioned that there were "a few" teams that he refused to work out for because "he wasn't going there".
Utah was certainly among them.

Booker
Marcus Smart
Chris Paul
Reggie Jackson

Are a few certainties that spring to mind, though Jackson refused to work out with everyone because he had a guarantee from OKC
 
Any outrage is a year early.

Saying it's the worst move ever is 100% factually incorrect. At most Conley will add around 5-8 regular season wins next year, and that's a high end guesstimate.

I'll take the Lakers 2027 pick over the 2025 Wolves pick being 5 wins worse.

Conley is 36. He's supposed to fall off at some point. The reason that the Twolves are surging is because Ant is a superstar, McDaniels matured, and Gobert got integrated. I can almost forgive the Conley trade. The main issue was that D'lo Russell was becoming a cancer to that team.
 
Post-draft Kalipari mentioned that there were "a few" teams that he refused to work out for because "he wasn't going there".
Utah was certainly among them.

Booker
Marcus Smart
Chris Paul
Reggie Jackson

Are a few certainties that spring to mind, though Jackson refused to work out with everyone because he had a guarantee from OKC
Paging resident Kentucky expert @Dr. Jones
 
Conley is 36. He's supposed to fall off at some point. The reason that the Twolves are surging is because Ant is a superstar, McDaniels matured, and Gobert got integrated. I can almost forgive the Conley trade. The main issue was that D'lo Russell was becoming a cancer to that team.
I don't think DLo can be a true cancer. He isn't good enough. He's just a regular season player.
 
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