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What an embarrassing night for all Jazz fans (4/14/14). Tank crowd can suck a fat one. (LONG)

The only time you don't tank is if you have a legitimate shot at the NBA Playoffs. Do you really believe this team would've been THAT much closer winning ten extra games - especially at the cost of potentially landing a franchise defining player? C'mon, now!
 
The following may sound douchey, but since it's true, you'll have to deal with it: if you have never played competitive sports, particularly basketball, you are most likely in the pro-tank crowd. Here is why that's such a foolish perspective on this season.

Knowing how to win close, high-level games is a learned skill. Outcomes of games aren't coincidental in most cases. In basketball, there are hundreds of elements to the game and how it's played to be in position to win a game. Among those elements are something as simple as execution of basic fundamentals to as complex as a read-and-react action based on how secondary d yada yada blah blah blieh bloa blah


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the part that i read. seems would be solved with a good coach who does not waste time on feveloping vets
 
Started on a state title team and played DII for four years. I was hoping some members of Jazzfanz could talk basketball on a basketball message board. If you disagree that developing a winning culture is vital to building a title contender that is fair, but hopefully you can take some time to provide some reasoning as I have.

you have to look at the big picture. i hate tanking the bad way. everybody looking awful, bad coaching, no efforts... but i don't mind tanking the exciting way. we are not going anywhere with our current roster. we got good pieces. we need more.

i used to hoop in high school and i still play summer and winter league locally. it's no DII level, but i play with several ex collegians, and some even were ex d leaguers. i love winning, but that's from players perspective.

for fans, it's different. it's not about 1 game. it's the season. it's the future. it's the star who can be the face of the franchise. i have nephews and cousins who root for lakers, spurs, and even heat. why? because Jazz friggin suck with no stars they can root for. we don't have KD. no bron. no kobe. no wade. no d rose. no curry. and they are too young to remember malone and stockton. and if we continue to produce mediocrity than more and more our kids will start looking elsewhere. this happens to every bad franchise. tradionally we are a great franchise with great fans. but IMO we were great fans because we had good teams for a long time. put a bad product on the court, things will change quickly. it's just a matter of time.

every contending teams need at least 2 legit all stars. 3 are even better. we have none. we gotta go get stars, but again the reality is that superstars won't want to come to us. we are a small market. we need to draft right guys. we gotta do it Spurs way. and it means we also need to upgrade our coach.


no doubt, i understand where you are coming from. but again, be a fan, don't be a player. you'll understand
 
This is not college where a bunch of scrappy hard workin guys can win one for the gipper.

Check the Jazz roster in 2003-04, and their win-loss total.

Of course you need a 'superstar' and talent, but the Jazz have a few studs in the making and a few really freaking good role players in the making. My point was we were gonna be lotto most likely, and in this draft, I don't see much of a difference between 2-14. Jabari has a chance to be really special... But he could also turn into Billy Owens. Burke getting first-hand experience this year winning at least 10-15 more games is more beneficial to the Jazz in the big picture than the difference between Julius Randle and whoever gets picked 10-14.
 
no doubt, i understand where you are coming from. but again, be a fan, don't be a player. you'll understand

Trust me, I am a fan first now haha. I totally get the logic behind wanting the best draft pick possible, but my point is that in the big picture I feel like our core five having a legit NBA coach who could've led them to many more wins this season is much more beneficial than the difference between a guy who gets picked 3rd and 10th in this years draft. An incoming rookie is nothing more than question marks and uncertainty. We know what we got with TB, AB, GH, DF and EK.
 
Check the Jazz roster in 2003-04, and their win-loss total.

Of course you need a 'superstar' and talent, but the Jazz have a few studs in the making and a few really freaking good role players in the making. My point was we were gonna be lotto most likely, and in this draft, I don't see much of a difference between 2-14. Jabari has a chance to be really special... But he could also turn into Billy Owens. Burke getting first-hand experience this year winning at least 10-15 more games is more beneficial to the Jazz in the big picture than the difference between Julius Randle and whoever gets picked 10-14.

That time I realized I was conversating with a crazy person...


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I got your winnig Culture right here....

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That time I realized I was conversating with a crazy person...

Care to articulate what your difference is with those statements? Or perhaps I can clarify something I've said that is currently baffling to you. Or are you only interested in tossing out worthless quips to someone who would like to engage in thoughtful basketball discussion?
 
Care to articulate what your difference is with those statements? Or perhaps I can clarify something I've said that is currently baffling to you. Or are you only interested in tossing out worthless quips to someone who would like to engage in thoughtful basketball discussion?

Definitely the second thing.

Almost 29,000 posts worth of the second thing tbh


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