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Al-O-Meter said:
Maybe not in your day, but college campuses over the past decade have been hotbeds for anti-Semitism. Here is an article from about 10 years ago from UC Davis describing the treatment of Jewish students by other UC Davis students in the meeting where the UC Davis student government passed an anti-Israel divestment resolution, and subsequently the Jewish frat was spray-painted with swastikas.

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After Anti-Semitic Vandalism, ZOA and 22 Other Groups Urge UC Davis Investigation - Zionist Organization of America

The ZOA and 22 other organizations today wrote to Linda P.B. Katehi, Chancellor of the University of California, Davis, urging an investigation into the conduct of the hate group, Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), and one of its members, Azka Fayyaz – who also is a student senator – and...
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At UC Berkeley, probably one of the leftmost college campuses in the country, they had effectively created Jew-free zones. One night a year ago, some students dumped shellfish on a Jewish fraternity on the evening before Shabbat, a Jewish holiday. This was *BEFORE* the October 7 attack and subsequent events. Your claims that this has been motivated by Israel's response is balderdash. The Anti-Semites were already there on the campuses. The claims of genocide in Gaza is just the new thing they're saying.



I can see how intense the desire you have to lump these awful people in with Trump supporters, but the reality is that the center of Anti-Semitic Zeitgeist in 2024 America is firmly left of center. Whatever things may or may not have been historically, the stance of things of here, now, today aren't debatable. They are Biden voters. Douglas Murry nailed it on Bill Maher's show a couple weeks ago when he said Biden with regards to Israel was motivated by seeking a two state solution, with those two states being Minnesota and Wisconsin which he needs to win to hold on to power.
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What motivates "leftists" to be antisemitic?
 
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What motivates "leftists" to be antisemitic?
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Nothing other than maybe proximity to other Anti-Semites. I think you have the causation backwards. The question is 'what causes Anti-Semites to be leftists?'

I suspect the answer in 2024 is that leftists have a greater affinity for collectivism than does the political right. Racism is a bigotry against a racial collective and fits more easily with those who see the world in collective terms, hence the Anti-Semites of today gravitate leftwards.
 
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What motivates "leftists" to be antisemitic?
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Those on the left tend to be more concerned with the two state solution and are fueled primarily through concerns/hatred of Zionism. The left’s anti-semitism is on the fringe. It isn’t mainstream.

Meanwhile, the right’s anti-semitism is mainstream. It has taken over the gop. In fact, other than tax cuts for the rich, what else better describes what the GOP is for these days other than xenophobia? The right consumes anti-Semitic slurs on the regular from Tucker, Fox News, infowars, and Donald Trump. Insert the name “Rothschilds” for “Soros” and it’s literally the same conspiracies as 100 years ago. The right’s anti-semitism Is fueled by good old fashioned racism. Like this:
(Ppppsss, telling Jewish people that they like money and like being puppet masters is like the anti-semitism 101)


View: https://youtu.be/s4_Y3YIN43c?feature=shared
 
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Al-O-Meter said:
Maybe not in your day
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For sure.
Al-O-Meter said:
I can see how intense the desire you have to lump these awful people in with Trump supporters, but the reality is that the center of Anti-Semitic Zeitgeist in 2024 America is firmly left of center
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Yes, I may be looking for confirmation bias. Best I can do is provide food for thought. I do agree antisemitism is found from one end of the political spectrum to the other.



theconversation.com

Antisemitism has moved from the right to the left in the US − and falls back on long-standing stereotypes

Antisemitism in the US is growing – and that growth appears to be related to the escalation of the conflict between Israel and Hamas. It also reflects a different political ideology than in the past.
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Prior to 10/7:
https://forward.com/fast-forward/549006/jews-far-left-far-right-antisemitic-study/

“Your claims that this has been motivated by Israel's response is balderdash”.

I can’t agree with this. It had everything to do with what happened on college campuses.

People respond to ongoing outrages. When Hamas attacked on 10/7, people responded with shock, alarm, sympathy. This was followed soon after by months of tv images of Gaza, which will galvanize many in the world against such a disproportionate response. The ongoing response now is not the actions of 10/7. The ongoing now is killing innocent people in Gaza. And many responded. Among faculty and students on college campuses. And among the international community. People are responding to a rain of death from the air that just won’t stop. With Hamas reappearing in northern Gaza again.

I recall you once posted that the people of Gaza support Hamas, despite the bombs, so we need not put “Israel must stop killing the innocents” as a reason for Israeli to stop. I would say, one, I am not surprised if Gaza Palestinians still support Israel, Hamas are the ones attacking their oppressors. More importantly, just because Gaza Palestinians still support Hamas is no reason for Netanyahu to “oblige” and kill civilians that are in the way. Palestinian citizens not denouncing Hamas is not actually a good enough reason, there is no good enough reason, for Netanyahu to kill innocent people by the tens of thousands.

People around the world objecting to indiscriminate killing isn’t strange.

If one is arguing that people are appalled at what Israel is doing in Gaza because they are anti-Semitic, I do not believe antisemitism is a requirement to be appalled at carnage, and I feel your statement ignores an obvious reality.
 
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can anyone find a single reference to the Palestinian authority or other leading body of the Palestinians unequivocally stating they want a two state setup or any time in history that Palestinian leadership have accepted a proposed two state peace proposal ?? Genuine question, i don't know
 
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Yes, I may be looking for confirmation bias. Best I can do is provide food for thought. I do agree antisemitism is found from one end of the political spectrum to the other.
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It may be found from one end of the political spectrum to the other, but right now, today, in 2024, the prevalence of Anti-Semitic acts committed by those on the political right and left is far from equal. Per the article you posted from TheConversation: "In the U.S., our data shows that 95% of antisemitic incidents motivated by Israel’s policies were perpetrated by far-left or unidentified activists. Just 5% were perpetrated by known far-right activists."

Trump is the most pro-Israel President in our nation's history. The Anti-Semites of 2024 are more likely to want to see Trump put against a wall and shot than to win a second term in office. The tiki torch morons of 2017 are campaigning for Biden in 2024. The question you have to ask yourself is if you want to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with them if you knew their support was the only way to keep Trump out of office? How much are your morals worth?
 
Al-O-Meter said:
It may be found from one end of the political spectrum to the other, but right now, today, in 2024, the prevalence of Anti-Semitic acts committed by those on the political right and left is far from equal. Per the article you posted from TheConversation: "In the U.S., our data shows that 95% of antisemitic incidents motivated by Israel’s policies were perpetrated by far-left or unidentified activists. Just 5% were perpetrated by known far-right activists."

Trump is the most pro-Israel President in our nation's history. The Anti-Semites of 2024 are more likely to want to see Trump put against a wall and shot than to win a second term in office. The tiki torch morons of 2017 are campaigning for Biden in 2024. The question you have to ask yourself is if you want to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with them if you knew their support was the only way to keep Trump out of office? How much are your morals worth?
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I get a kick out of thinking how clever you must have been feeling when you wrote that post.
 
It’s important to remember these things in Memorial Day.

www.theatlantic.com

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.
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When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
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When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the **** are we doing that for? Guy was a ****ing loser,”

Is this who you want to be in the White House again this coming fall? Please remember what he’s said about those who have died for this country and vote accordingly this November.
 
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