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Hood actually rates out as a great post-up player this year, in the 81% percentile of the league. He was 9/18 in the post this year (very limited too), had a fairly high foul shooting foul percentage of 18%, but he did turn it over in 20% of his post-ups.
 
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Hood actually rated out as a better isolation player than Curry this year, Hood was the 94.7% percentile of isolations! He was the best wing in isolation who had at least 100 possessions (Lou Williams was higher but only had 90). Crazy that he rated that high because he rarely gets to the FT line in ISO's (only 4%, or 4 FT trips in 100 possessions!). Add the ability to draw contact to Hood's game and he is going to be a scoring monster.

Hayward was in the 66th percentile and he really excelled at getting to the FT line in isolations. He got to the FT line on 16.5% (that's a higher % than Harden and every high usage ISO wing besides Demar Derozan) of his ISO's (170 possessions). Hayward's negative is that he turns it over in isolations more than every other high usage wing (only PG's and big's TO more frequently)

Also interesting how badly Alec performed this year in isolations. 34th percentile in isolation.
 
King Cy said:
I'm really having fun with NBA.com right now.

Hood actually rated out as a better isolation player than Curry this year, Hood was the 94.7% percentile of isolations! He was the best wing in isolation who had at least 100 possessions (Lou Williams was higher but only had 90). Crazy that he rated that high because he rarely gets to the FT line in ISO's (only 4%, or 4 FT trips in 100 possessions!). Add the ability to draw contact to Hood's game and he is going to be a scoring monster.

Hayward was in the 66th percentile and he really excelled at getting to the FT line in isolations. He got to the FT line on 16.5% (that's a higher % than Harden and every high usage ISO wing besides Demar Derozan) of his ISO's (170 possessions). Hayward's negative is that he turns it over in isolations more than every other high usage wing (only PG's and big's TO more frequently)
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How was in Hood with TO's in ISO spots?
 
More interesting stats:

Shelvin Mack is an awful PNR player: 31st percentile

You know who is even worse? Raul Neto: 18th percentile

Burks, Burke, Hayward, and Hood all rated out as great PNR players though, but damn, those starting Utah Jazz PG's.
 
Hood. Explosion
Exum. Handles
Hayward. Demand the ball
Favors. Footwork
Gobert. Strength, coordination
Lyles. Floor game, aggression
Burks. Defense
Mack, Neto. Passing
 
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We run the dribble hand-off way too much with Hayward. He isn't good at it and he gets the 3rd most in the NBA. (48th percentile)

Hood gets teh 10th most in the NBA and is a lot better on this play than Hayward. (68th percentile).

Even though Trey Burke didnt play a lot of minutes, he had the 16th most dribble hand-offs ran for him and he was just as average as Hayward (50th percentile).

We obviously seem to be running this play way too much. All 3 of Hayward/Hood/Burke turn the ball over at a high rate in these plays. Hood's saving grace in these plays is that he shoots the 3 well out of it, so we should keep that play open for him. Hayward has no business running it though, he doesnt even get to the FT line at a high rate out of this play, which is rare for Hayward.
 
Rudy Gobert has 172 possessions labeled as "cut", obviously cutting to the rim. He has the highest TO% in these plays for anyone with over 100 such possessions. The two other bigs who are close are John Henson and Jordan Hill, who are about a percentage point lower.
 
King Cy said:
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We run the dribble hand-off way too much with Hayward. He isn't good at it and he gets the 3rd most in the NBA. (48th percentile)

Hood gets teh 10th most in the NBA and is a lot better on this play than Hayward. (68th percentile).

Even though Trey Burke didnt play a lot of minutes, he had the 16th most dribble hand-offs ran for him and he was just as average as Hayward (50th percentile).

We obviously seem to be running this play way too much. All 3 of Hayward/Hood/Burke turn the ball over at a high rate in these plays. Hood's saving grace in these plays is that he shoots the 3 well out of it, so we should keep that play open for him. Hayward has no business running it though, he doesnt even get to the FT line at a high rate out of this play, which is rare for Hayward.
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The dribble handoff (especially when rudy is standing at the three point line and doing a dribble handoff) gots-ta-go! I hate it
 
King Cy said:
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We run the dribble hand-off way too much with Hayward. He isn't good at it and he gets the 3rd most in the NBA. (48th percentile)

Hood gets teh 10th most in the NBA and is a lot better on this play than Hayward. (68th percentile).

Even though Trey Burke didnt play a lot of minutes, he had the 16th most dribble hand-offs ran for him and he was just as average as Hayward (50th percentile).

We obviously seem to be running this play way too much. All 3 of Hayward/Hood/Burke turn the ball over at a high rate in these plays. Hood's saving grace in these plays is that he shoots the 3 well out of it, so we should keep that play open for him. Hayward has no business running it though, he doesnt even get to the FT line at a high rate out of this play, which is rare for Hayward.
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King Cy said:
Rudy Gobert has 172 possessions labeled as "cut", obviously cutting to the rim. He has the highest TO% in these plays for anyone with over 100 such possessions. The two other bigs who are close are John Henson and Jordan Hill, who are about a percentage point lower.
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Combine these posts of yours and it tells me that rudy doing a dribble handoff to Gordon and cutting to the rim is like the worst play we could run. Yet it also might be the play we run the most.

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As good as Gobert is, his poor "hands" really hurt anything the Jazz want to do on offense. If Gobert had a respectable 10 foot shot and could catch a pass without losing it the Jazz could, Could be really good.
Favors is a really good player, I doubt he'll ever be an allstar. He is what he is. He'll get a bit better with his shot but hes not a "Killer"
Hayward is probably peaking right now. He isn't the guy you go to if you want to do anything in the Playoffs.
Hood just needs to get stronger. I think this guy has the tools to be what Hayward can't be.
Exum needs to do a ton. First is to get stronger. I doubt he has a chance to be anything other then a defensive juggernaut.
On the bench, Trey Lyles just needs to polish everything, he is the one guy who I'd say actually improved as the season went on.
Neto, Burke, Mack. Might as well trade any of them. They are all ok but nothing more then botttom of the bench guys.
Burks. If I was Utah i'd just trade him. The guy plays too reckless and puts himself in bad positions and gets hurt.
Pretty much everyone else should be let go, cut or traded.
 
King Cy said:
https://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/playtype/post-up/?dir=-1&sort=PlayerFirstName

So people have actual stats, not just "Remember that one time he got blocked? he sucks at posting up".

According to the stats, he is the 52.7% percentile on post-up efficiency. So he is a very average post player, but he hardly ever post-up (he actually has the 14th lowest post-up frequency of his possessions. The only SF with a lower frequency is Otto Porter (Aminu is tied with Hayward) I just don't think it's a very reliable thing in Utah's offense with Favors/Gobert. Maybe it's something he could get better with if he plays with Lyles more.

The one clear positive about Hayward's post up game is that he actually does draw FT trips out of his post-ups at a high rate compared to the rest of the league and he turns the ball over at an extremely low rate compared to the rest of the league out of his post-ups.
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So... your stats show that I was right. Hayward has plenty of room to improve in his post up game. He rarely went to it, which means it is not a consistent weapon. But as a 6'8, 235lb small forward, it could be a very deadly weapon for him. I loved the idea of running a pick and roll and getting the switch so he had Tony Parker guarding him. The only problem, is that he couldn't take advantage of it. Once he can take advantage of it, he'll take his game to another level.
 
JFFR said:
So... your stats show that I was right. Hayward has plenty of room to improve in his post up game. He rarely went to it, which means it is not a consistent weapon. But as a 6'8, 235lb small forward, it could be a very deadly weapon for him. I loved the idea of running a pick and roll and getting the switch so he had Tony Parker guarding him. The only problem, is that he couldn't take advantage of it. Once he can take advantage of it, he'll take his game to another level.
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Yeah, sort of. He far from sucks at it, but he can improve for sure.

I think Hood is probably the better post-up option with 2-guards guarding him.
 
JFFR said:
So... your stats show that I was right. Hayward has plenty of room to improve in his post up game. He rarely went to it, which means it is not a consistent weapon. But as a 6'8, 235lb small forward, it could be a very deadly weapon for him. I loved the idea of running a pick and roll and getting the switch so he had Tony Parker guarding him. The only problem, is that he couldn't take advantage of it. Once he can take advantage of it, he'll take his game to another level.
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Also they ran switches onto PG's late in games for Hayward quite a few games and it worked a lot. You are just remembering the times it didnt. They don't count the play where he gets the PG switched onto him at the FT line (extended) as a post-up FYI. Those are either counted as isolations or PNR as the roll man (both of which Hayward performed very well as).
 
Hayward: mid-range shooting; faking and driving from mid-range, a la vintage Paul Pierce.
Favors: post moves, post moves and post moves.
Hood: strenght and outside shooting.
Burks: mid-range shooting.
Mack: quickness, conditioning and handling.
Gobert: strenght and shooting mid-range. He'll be a better finisher just by getting stronger. He'll be able to develop some sort of post game only if he gets stronger.
Lyles: strenght and post defense.
Neto: overall shooting.
Booker: mid-range shooting.
Withey: inside moves.
Ingles: overall conditioning.
Pleiss: everything.
Exum: mid-range shooting.
 
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Eenie-Meenie said:
Stoked said:
Gobert - HANDS!!!!!!/QUOTE]

Hands, hands, and more hands. Catch the damn ball, Rudy, and dunk it with authority. Probably could use more explosiveness and lift, as well, which will help his dunking ferocity. Increased strength also will cause players attempting to stop him to risk injury. Needs to get in the weight room, maybe get a weight-training session or two with the Mailman.
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One thing you have to realize with Rudy getting stripped is that his size is a contributing factor. Think about when he is holding the ball in a normal position in front of himself: with his height and long arms the ball is just sitting way out there in a perfect position to get stripped. I think that has more to do with it than hand strength. Maybe he can learn to hold it sideways so his arm is on top in a position to get fouled.
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