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What do you think Smith, Ainge, Wade and Zantacs are thinking right now?

LoPo said:
Nobody said anything about overly catering to players. Read the dang posts Cy.

I said that the ownership should hope that Donovan doesn't want to leave. If he already wants to leave this summer, then yes, this is bad for the organization and optics.

Stop your attacks on Donovan. He's been a good player and person for this franchise.
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Show me where Ive attacked him recently.

If were arent allowed to lobby mild critics on this forum without upsetting Donovan's Personal Balls Pedestal then what can we do?
 
infection said:
Yes. This is like many fast food joints totally tanking their quality and strengths by trying to appeal to a group of people who will never consume their food. We’re not cool. Won’t be. I don’t care. Give me more of that tasty, fattening food because I’m not coming here for a salad.
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Damnit, now I want McDonald's. Thanks a lot.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Show me where Ive attacked him recently.

If were arent allowed to lobby mild critics on this forum without upsetting Donovan's Personal Balls Pedestal then what can we do?
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There is no tangible proof that Donovan is trying to leave. There is no evidence that he is upset.

However, if we get to the summer and he wants gone for whatever reason, we trade him. Until then, you guys should stop speculating on his feelings and being a baby. You should be nicer to our best player.
 
LoPo said:
Yeah, you never know. That's why I said it might impact his trade value.

My main concern with Don asking out is the impact it makes on the image of the franchise. We should be embracing and keeping a young star like him. If we run him off, it does even further damage to our image.
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To me... its either you trade Don and Rudy or you trade neither of them. If it was just about basketball I would say keep them both and trade everything in between and get a new coach. Since they clearly don't get along and have yet to figure their BS out I am not going to put a lot of faith in them to figure it out.

You trade Rudy you aren't getting the second star back... and honestly since we have two stars and no top 7-ish players we probably need three stars and have no mechanisms to go get them.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utah needs to stop caring about their image so freaking much in terms of overly catering to players.

Utah is never going to be cool.

Utah got their best UFA in their history because they were really ****ing good, had a coach that was well regarded among players, and had a system that appealed to that Bogey tier of player.

Utah (barring a tie to the state/Mormonism) is never going to sign a top tier free agent. It's just not going to happen, no matter how cool Donovan Mitchell says Utah is. And none of those reasons I said why a high level guy might come to Utah is going to stop just cuz Donovan Mitchell got his feelings hurt in Utah.
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Donovan is not Lebron... he's not KD... he's not Giannis... he is not this franchise... we will be fine.

And honestly how cool do other stars think Donovan is? I'm not sure if he gets dinged for being with Rudy who other stars irrationally hate... but it ain't like he's one of the first guys picked in the AS draft.

If we can't recover from the image damage of trading Donovan then we shouldn't be in business. Its nothing personal against him... love to have him if we had enough to put with him to win... we don't.
 
LoPo said:
Yeah, you never know. That's why I said it might impact his trade value.

My main concern with Don asking out is the impact it makes on the image of the franchise. We should be embracing and keeping a young star like him. If we run him off, it does even further damage to our image.
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I do know... because it has happened like 10 times.

If NY gets a top 4 pick I think they'd give the pick and some other stuff for Don... if they don't I think they'd unload all their future picks and current prospects except RJ to get him (not that RJ is untouchable, but I'd think they would want to pair them together). A number of other teams would likely offer similar packages.

The biggest gains come from being able to get draft capital from Royce, Mike, and Bogey since you no longer have to try to be good or keep his friends around. In the Rudy trade you might still do the Atlanta deal but you flip Collins for draft picks and young players. You get to reset the timeline of the whole team. Having guys on multiple timelines is fine if you have young replacements coming up to replace the parts that age out. Joe aged out... Mike will soon... Bogey soon after.

You can also build without constraints... no small guards... get some elite wing talent... no limited centers... focus on getting as much two way talent as possible while you build.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I do know... because it has happened like 10 times.

If NY gets a top 4 pick I think they'd give the pick and some other stuff for Don... if they don't I think they'd unload all their future picks and current prospects except RJ to get him (not that RJ is untouchable, but I'd think they would want to pair them together). A number of other teams would likely offer similar packages.

The biggest gains come from being able to get draft capital from Royce, Mike, and Bogey since you no longer have to try to be good or keep his friends around. In the Rudy trade you might still do the Atlanta deal but you flip Collins for draft picks and young players. You get to reset the timeline of the whole team. Having guys on multiple timelines is fine if you have young replacements coming up to replace the parts that age out. Joe aged out... Mike will soon... Bogey soon after.

You can also build without constraints... no small guards... get some elite wing talent... no limited centers... focus on getting as much two way talent as possible while you build.
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C'mon man. I know you're committed to this train of thinking, but our franchise is not going to trade every single piece OKC style just to be stuck in OKC type purgatory for years and years and years.

We will be fine when we trade Rudy and maybe one or two more with an emphasis on getting younger and more dynamic on both ends of the floor. There will be some lumps, but maybe the guys will enjoy playing together again.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
... I would say keep them both and trade everything in between and get a new coach....
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At the end of his podcast, Locke read a question from a listener that proposed the same thing as you here. He replied, "Ya. Maybe". Then he went on to talk about how "hard" it is when a team/coach gets broken up like that, and he was saying it with feeling like it was a done deal.
 
"We are so done"
"We should have sold last summer"
"We'll look idiots for the return we'll get next summer"
"There's this city about 400 miles southwest..."
"How cold is Seattle?"
 
Ainge is probably thinking "What the **** did I get myself into? I'm too old for this ****"
 
They should think about firing themselves. They ran this organization into the ground. Way too many offseason blunders for a team that's supposedly competing for a championship. I know a lot of it was on DL but still
 
jom2003 said:
They should think about firing themselves. They ran this organization into the ground. Way too many offseason blunders for a team that's supposedly competing for a championship. I know a lot of it was on DL but still
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It will take years to undue stupid DL's decisions
 
This is a live look at Ryan Smith, Danny Ainge, and Quin Snyder.

Warning it has a swear.

 
UtahJazz32 said:
It will take years to undue stupid DL's decisions
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we will be giving other teams multiple early second rounders, some of which would turn into solid rotation pieces, for the next 7 years as we go through a painful rebuild. oh, have we mention that 2022 first rounder to Memphis is only top 6 protected? if we end up in the play-in and lose, we will be giving Memphis a lotto pick. And that first rounder to OKC is definitely gonna be a lotto pick
 
LoPo said:
There is no tangible proof that Donovan is trying to leave. There is no evidence that he is upset.

However, if we get to the summer and he wants gone for whatever reason, we trade him. Until then, you guys should stop speculating on his feelings and being a baby. You should be nicer to our best player.
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Lmao, you are better than this man.
 
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