What does Hayward have to do his rookie season to be considered at least a decent pick?

[VINYLONE]

Mebbe the biggest problem Sloan presents for the league is that his disease is contageous. Even the greatest coach of all time, Phil Jackson, was overcome by it and was stupid enough to play Fisher's old *** in the playoffs against much quicker, more athletic young point guards.

Hop, you're comparing apples and oranges. Or should I say rings and no rings.

 

[VINYLONE]

When guys like S2 take to sidin against Sloan and in favor of guys like that lazy-***, no-playin Meech, ya kinda suspect that are simply representatives of some militantly agressive gay activist group, ya know? Either that or.....well, I can't think of any other reason, truth be told.

Dealing with absolutes are we?

 

[The-Joker]

And Fisher's old *** hit how many clutch shots during there run this year? Yeah I wouldn't have played him ether.

Ya, but he didn't do it for the Jazz.
He had the one agaisnt GSW... but that game was pretty much in the bag... and that series was not very competitive except for that game.

 

[sirkickyass]

Considering he was a reach for his draft slot he needs to be the best rookie slated 9 or later.

 

[Hopper]

Yeah, bein good won't cut it. He's gotta be the best, er else he just aint nuthin.

Boozer was, what? The 40th pick in his draft, or sumthin. Anyone taken 39th or above that year who aint better than Boozer aint even "at least a decent pick," I figure.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Hayward is always going to be compared to similar players in the same draft. He needs to play as well as Babbit, Henry, and George or people will say the Jazz picked the wrong player.

Then when some other stud picked later makes the All-Star team, people will say the Jazz should have drafted that player.

 

[Hopper]

He needs to play as well as Babbit, Henry, and George or people will say the Jazz picked the wrong player.

Then when some other stud picked later makes the All-Star team, people will say the Jazz should have drafted that player.

Yeah, and "play as well as" can only mean similar (or better) box score stats, eh, Catch?

I mean, like, a rookie who plays a solid 15 minutes a game for a playoff team could not possibly be "as good as" a rookie who score 6 more points a game playin 40 minutes for a lottery team, ya know?

 

[Hopper]

Everything is so much easier with hindsight. In hindsight, the best thing that could have happened to Matthews is to go undrafted. Now he is a free agent with no indentured servitude at low-scale pay to fulfill. The drafted players (especially second-rounders) can thank their union "brothers" for bein a virtual slave.

 

[DutchJazzer]

well outperform every single first round pick picked after him

simple *** that

 

[Hopper]

well outperform every single first round pick picked after him

simple *** that

It's just dat simple, sho nuff. Just ax Kicky, if ya don't believe it.

 

[Shaggy]

well outperform every single first round pick picked after him

simple as that

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[Darkwing Duck]

Do you really have to be so cynical?

You say this, then

Personally, I think a lot depends on the success of the team and a few of the players drafted after Hayward.

#1 Will we make the playoffs? If so, how far will we go?

So I was right, just exaggerated a bit, but nothing like the hyperbole that was being thrown out there on draft night.