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What happened to Fesenko?

Elson is playing well lately, and we are winning. This is a bit of a trap though when the playoffs come rolling around.

The thing that concerns me is still Fes, and his role on the team. We still need a big man to compete with a team like the Lakers.
We need to develop Fes, or get rid of him and try someone else. Elson won't cut it against the Lakers. He's a nice role player, but against the elite
teams I don't see him making an impact. Fes, and yes probably in the best case scenario mind you, still could have an impact against a team like the Lakers.
He didn't play well last year against them, but wasn't given enough time all season either. 5 mins every game is better than nothing, but I'd prefer 10 and see where
we are after 15 games or so.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Elson is just straight up out playing Fess. How many times has Fess out right fouled a player instead of actually trying to play defense.
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There's a reason that the bench players (including Fes and Elson) have been so effective; the biggest is the defense. None of these players has perfect focus, and Fesenko fouls way too much, but both Elson and Fesenko have regularly been part of comebacks and paint protection, despite the fouls. Fes needs to learn to dial down the defensive aggressiveness, not dial it up as you're implying. (Lackadaisical D has been more of AJ's problem, not the backup bigs.)

Oh and as for your "Elson is just straight out playing Fes", Elson doesn't have a huge advantage in any category other than fouls. Overfouling is not a insignificant stat, but it doesn't seem to have hurt the Jazz's second string produce big comebacks and build or maintain leads. It beats the heck out of the matador D that the bench players have been sometimes faced with overcoming as part of their keeping or getting the Jazz back in the game.
PP30: FE 7.16; KF 6.81
RP30: FE 6.74; KF 6.81
SP30: FE 0.69; KF 0.00
TO30: FE 1.10; KF 1.06
PF30: FE 3.85; KF 6.60

Again, such fouling frequency is too high, but it's no coincidence either that Price is second on the team in foul frequency yet is regarded as a defensive spark.

If the starters weren't so protective of their own foul trouble as often, then they wouldn't let so many easy baskets go. The bench doesn't have as much to lose foulwise. Fes has gotta get the fouls down, but again, it hasn't hurt the team; it's making the opponents earn their points. (KF has also had some stupid charges; gotta stop those, too.)

Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
I appreciate that he puts down a hard foul, but some of its just ridiculous, he could easily block or change a shot, but he just either doesnt have the mental or physical quickness to do so.
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Again, there's a reason that Elson and Fesenko are helping the second string to make such an impact--because they are doing just that--changing shots, and blocking them every once in a while. If you want a player to improve, then give him more than 7 or 8 minutes per available game. (Same goes for Hayward; the least that can be done is to put him in earlier than in the last 3 to 5 minutes when the game isn't in question.)

In the last 3 games, Fes's Bucks performance was unremarkable in 6 minutes of play. But against Indy, he logged 6 RBs in 9 minutes, and against L.A. 2-2 shooting in 5 minutes. An average of less than a foul across the 3 games. It's not like he hasn't produced.
 
Fesenko had some good moments last night, and some difficult moments. I saw a coupld of nice spins, but also a couple of times where he jogged up the court behend the man he was supposed to be covering, and the defense suffered. I think 15 minutes might be all he will ever be able to play consistently, he seems to lack endurance.
 
Fesenko is a very erratic player. It's difficult for a coach to put an inconsistant player in a game, not knowing whether he'll have one of his really BAD games; not exactly a coach's dream come true...
 
Ya I'm not ignorant enough to think that Fess playing more would've won the game last night but I was encouraged with how he came out and was aggressive, if he's going to make mistakes aggressive mistakes are always better.

Hopefully it's a sign of things to come as well as being more consistent even if playing time is not.
 
Elson has played better than Fes this year, but Fes has had less mins and still had some bright spots.

I really like watching Fes and Elson together. I hope we can still see thes when Memo comes back. Oh, sigh the Sloth returnth, soon.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Elson has played better than Fes this year, but Fes has had less mins and still had some bright spots.

I really like watching Fes and Elson together. I hope we can still see thes when Memo comes back. Oh, sigh the Sloth returnth, soon.
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Sure we can see this when Memo returns! Just run Memo at the SF position and we're set!

Yes, I know, Fail...
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
Ya I'm not ignorant enough to think that Fess playing more would've won the game last night but I was encouraged with how he came out and was aggressive, if he's going to make mistakes aggressive mistakes are always better.
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You're right; it didn't have to be Fesenko with more minutes. Elson could've probably done the job--except that he was committing turnovers at the rate of one every three minutes and was playing OK defense but hadn't done anything to really merit more time.

Height differential, not protecting the paint, and wings cheating inward (because of not trusting the lack of height for most of the game) had a lot to do with the loss last night.
 
Cut the po boy sum slack, willya? He tired.

By Steve Luhm
The Salt Lake Tribune
Published Dec 4, 2010 04:28PM
Updated 16 minutes ago Updated Dec 4, 2010 11:42PM


Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan praised back-up center Kyrylo Fesenko’s performance against in Friday night’s 93-81 loss to Dallas. Sloan just wishes he could have kept Fesenko on the floor a little longer.


“He was pretty active,” Sloan said. “He went in and got the ball.”

During a seven-minute stretch in the first half, Fesenko scored his five points and grabbed seven rebounds. He helped Utah wipe out a 25-20 deficit and take a 30-29 lead before Sloan replaced him with 6:38 left in the second quarter.
When Fesenko came off the floor, he was obviously winded as he sat down on the bench.

“He got tired,” Sloan said. “That’s what we tell him. You should be able to play 48 minutes. That’s the way the game is set up and that’s what you should condition yourself for.”

If Fesenko was in top shape, Sloan said, he could “ … stay out there longer and have more of a chance to have success.”

Besides conditioning, Fesenko’s has also struggled with free-throw shooting.
He made 1 of 2 against Dallas, meaning he improved to 3 of 15 for the season.
“He’s got to make his free throws — learn how to make his free throws — because right now other teams don’t care if they foul him,” Sloan said.

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I think the coachin 101 book tells ya that anybuddy who out of shape and cant make no free throws should be played until he drops from either exhaustion or bein fouled 24/7, don't it?
 
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