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What if Trey Burke....

He will never be fast, he will never be quick, he will always be a weak defender because of those and his size: trade him.

I suspect we will see Cotton or Neto as a better backup solution anyway.
 
I got bored and ran some numbers Friday.

Up from 40-41% 2pt to 43.5. Not a huge leap.

Up from 75% to 85% FT. He can clearly do that.

Up FTA from 1.9 to 2.5. Not a huge leap.

Up 3% from 32 to 35%. Not a huge leap.


That would put his ts% at a reasonable 51%. It's not the greatest but it's acceptable for a guy who would be the fifth best player on a starting squad.

Plus he's only 22. If he can make only those tiny improvements this season then I think he'll be solid by age 25.


#SOFTMORE SLUMP
 
I think we'd either trade him out or keep him as a rotation guy. He's not going to be elite, but maybe if he's a 4th option he can learn to complement other guys. Keep in mind, he's been acting like he's the first or second option offensive player in his first two seasons, in part because we've lacked that alpha scorer. But if he'll mellow out and just try to fit in, he could be an adequate player.

He was the second option last season.



*Edit* I think what you meant to say was let's stop asking Trey to do more than he's capable of by surrounding him with better talent and letting him play his natural role instead of forcing him into bad situations because nobody else on the team besides Hayward is a competent play maker.

Yes, I agree. 4th option, bring the ball up the floor. Our Derek Fisher of the Lakers dynasty.





(guess what guis. Trey will be signed to his next deal on the cheap. Jazz will look to extend him early. Start your crying today.)
 
Is someone forcing him to take 20 off dribble bricks a game?
 
I actually think that's what he'll do. Maybe even better. I think he's a better shooter than his numbers have indicated.

Only problem is that Burke is a scoring shoot first pg. he'll need to change from the ground up the way he plays. There's too big a sample to just suggest he's going to all of a sudden get better. As bad a shooter as he was his rookie year, he somehow managed to shoot even worse. Just don't see him making a big enough improvement shooting only marginal improvement, and as bad as he was last year a marginal improvement doesn't mean much, probably.
 
Keep Burke as long as Hayward, Favors, Hood and Burks get more FGa game in and game out.

Burke (and the Jazz) gets into a lot of issues when he has the 2nd or 3rd most shot attempts in a game.

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Yes. Quin Snyder.

I very highly doubt Snyder went to Trey and was like "you know that stupid off dribble shot that you hit 15% of the time? I'd like to see you jack up more of those". It is also interesting how Trey used to brick that exact same shot in college. Amazing how different coaches insist he continues to make the same stupid decision! And why should Burke be the only one doing that? Quin should instruct the rest of the team to hurl the ball in the direction of the rim every time they touch it. After all, it's not the shot selection that matters, only the volume of attempts!
 
Only problem is that Burke is a scoring shoot first pg. he'll need to change from the ground up the way he plays. There's too big a sample to just suggest he's going to all of a sudden get better. As bad a shooter as he was his rookie year, he somehow managed to shoot even worse. Just don't see him making a big enough improvement shooting only marginal improvement, and as bad as he was last year a marginal improvement doesn't mean much, probably.

I don't think this is necessarily true about Burke. His 2nd year at UM he was a pure point and that was his selling point. He set a school record for assist in a season. The biggest knock on Trey IMO are his still below average defense, and his poor shooting.
 
I don't think this is necessarily true about Burke. His 2nd year at UM he was a pure point and that was his selling point. He set a school record for assist in a season. The biggest knock on Trey IMO are his still below average defense, and his poor shooting.

Whatever he was at UM, he has referred himself as a scoring pg since he's been with the Jazz.


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Folks... I think most of us agree that trey doesn't fit the style of the rest of our team. Shoot first, short for his position, less athletic than other players in his position, shorter arms, and he takes pics of his Charlie wang.

Still, I think you guys go way too far here. I was a huge naysayer at the start of 2014 but I loved how he didn't pout coming off the bench. I loved how he came in and got into the paint with ease. His shooting % went down but look at Hayward in 2013. Both were asked to "score" more than the previous year. Snyder and DL both talked about how they had asked trey to come off the bench to boost our offense with the second group. Before he did we went nearly a month watching the bench play great defense and not be able to put the ball in the net with lineups like dante, jingles, gobert, and an assortment of options. We had Kanter come in to score and the offense was paralyzed. Trey won me over as an option off the bench no doubt. He will be back to prove some of you Nancy's wrong this season. He has the starting spot to lose and surely is motivated to make his impression yo!

Bra (currently sagging in the southern hemisphere). Bra out! (Mic drop)
 
Folks... I think most of us agree that trey doesn't fit the style of the rest of our team. Shoot first, short for his position, less athletic than other players in his position, shorter arms, and he takes pics of his Charlie wang.

Still, I think you guys go way too far here. I was a huge naysayer at the start of 2014 but I loved how he didn't pout coming off the bench. I loved how he came in and got into the paint with ease. His shooting % went down but look at Hayward in 2013. Both were asked to "score" more than the previous year. Snyder and DL both talked about how they had asked trey to come off the bench to boost our offense with the second group. Before he did we went nearly a month watching the bench play great defense and not be able to put the ball in the net with lineups like dante, jingles, gobert, and an assortment of options. We had Kanter come in to score and the offense was paralyzed. Trey won me over as an option off the bench no doubt. He will be back to prove some of you Nancy's wrong this season. He has the starting spot to lose and surely is motivated to make his impression yo!

Bra (currently sagging in the southern hemisphere). Bra out! (Mic drop)

with the options available off the bench now the need for Trey to jack up shots is redundant. Be interesting to see if he plays for the team or his own sense of heroics ..
 
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