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KqWIN said:
The amount of times you iso can be done with tracking data as well as a multitude of other numbers that are related. I legitimately don’t give a **** if you choose to remember differently and ignore the numbers. It doesn’t matter.

What you’re citing is an article before the season happened lmao. It’s basically saying what I said, if there’s growth for Lauri….it would be in the self creation category. Did that actually happen? Again, I don’t really care if you refuse to believe facts….I am saying the same thing. The Jazz should let Lauri expand his game. If they decide to restrict his game as you’re suggesting, it is completely stupid.
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Tracking data only shows play types for those plays that ended in a result. And I know you dont give AF. Keep trying to spin it in a way that will just let you argue endlessly because someone is making a point better than you and you cant accept it.

And again, we are not saying the same thing. The Jazz tried to expand Lauri's game last year. This year it will be more about going to what works and improving on the skillsets that make him a great player, not trying to expand him into a SF.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Tracking data only shows play types for those plays that ended in a result. And I know you dont give AF. Keep trying to spin it in a way that will just let you argue endlessly because someone is making a point better than you and you cant accept it.

And again, we are not saying the same thing. The Jazz tried to expand Lauri's game last year. This year it will be more about going to what works and improving on the skillsets that make him a great player, not trying to expand him into a SF.
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I keep trying to spin it by using facts, my bad. I should just accept the superior argument of "because I said so". That is the only argument you've presented. Tony writing an article before last season saying, "Lauri could expand his game by doing my isolation from 15-17 feet" isn't an argument for "Lauri did so much more isolation starting at the 3 point line".

You are right, I am not saying the same the thing as youl. I am saying the same thing as Tony did before last season. If Lauri has a next step, the next step is obvious and it's self creation. That's how he brings it to another level. Lauri has basically reached the pinnacle of what's possible as a non-creator. The area for growth is the ability to create his own shot. No significant scorer in the NBA had more of his baskets assisted than Lauri last season. The facts would say he didn't get to that point by iso'ing a lot, but go off and believe whatever you want to believe.

Whatever amount of initiating you think Lauri did last season, I want more of it. I do not want to limit his progress, especially in a year where winning is not the priority. Restricting Lauri would be the dumbest approach I can think of for next season. That is 100% on the list of things NOT to do.
 
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KqWIN said:
I keep trying to spin it by using facts, my bad. I should just accept the superior argument of "because I said so". That is the only argument you've presented. Tony writing an article before last season saying, "Lauri could expand his game by doing my isolation from 15-17 feet" isn't an argument for "Lauri did so much more isolation starting at the 3 point line".

You are right, I am not saying the same the thing as youl. I am saying the same thing as Tony did before last season. If Lauri has a next step, the next step is obvious and it's self creation. That's how he brings it to another level. Lauri has basically reached the pinnacle of what's possible as a non-creator. The area for growth is the ability to create his own shot. No significant scorer in the NBA had more of his baskets assisted than Lauri last season. The facts would say he didn't get to that point by iso'ing a lot, but go off and believe whatever you want to believe.

Whatever amount of initiating you think Lauri did last season, I want more of it. I do not want to limit his progress, especially in a year where winning is not the priority. Restricting Lauri would be the dumbest approach I can think of for next season. That is 100% on the list of things NOT to do.
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I am ready for PG Lauri on offense and center Lauri on defense but only the next two years.
 
whatthe said:
I am ready for PG Lauri on offense and center Lauri on defense but only the next two years.
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Utter stupidity. You dont diminish your best player in that way. If you want to lessen the impact of Lauri you play him less minute (like marginally less, nothing wild) and sit him more games. You dont put him in positions to fail. You want to further the development of his strengths.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utter stupidity. You dont diminish your best player in that way. If you want to lessen the impact of Lauri you play him less minute (like marginally less, nothing wild) and sit him more games. You dont put him in positions to fail. You want to further the development of his strengths.
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Well I should have put a sacarasm tag out there but that is something that would be childish to do and harmful.
 
I’d like to see Sexton, Clarkson, and Collins all traded so we can roll with Lauri and the 6 young guns. I think that approach works out regardless of the final outcome because:

1- Either they suck bad enough to be top 5 headed into the lottery which gives us a shot at Flagg while giving the young ones a full season of building chemistry and individual development, or….

2- Some of the young guys develop faster than anticipated, we win 30+ games which signals that we probably have more of our future core already on the roster.

Also, if Jazz do suck enough to get into the top 5, I could easily see Ainge trying to leverage the hell out of our future assets to get a 2nd pick in the top 5.
 
Agent#00 said:
1. Move john collins and his 25m salary
2. Stop sneaky tanking and just tank properly
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Collins salary is going to be hard to move this year. Would love for him to opt out next year, but I severely doubt that’s going to happen.

I do actually think Clarkson gets moved at the deadline though.
 
Ron Mexico said:
If he gets moved at the deadline its because he is playing well. That means we are winning more than a team hoping to win the lottery.
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It does sound like they are just going to straight up not play Clarkson that much. Maybe he goes down to like 20 MPG .

Going to be incredibly strange. He's a fan favorite and seen as an ambassador of being "cool" for the team.
 
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