Most people throw out his first three games off injury, first two at minimum. It's a meager difference anyway -- 42% or 44%. Either one is nearly double outperformance than what was expected of Ty and his squad this season. I doubt many other coaches could have gotten this squad up to a 44% win rate. Maybe five other coaches is all.
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Most people throw out his first three games off injury, first two at minimum. It's a meager difference anyway -- 42% or 44%. Either one is nearly double outperformance than what was expected of Ty and his squad this season. I doubt many other coaches could have gotten this squad up to a 44% win rate. Maybe five other coaches is all.
Sexual Favors
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But you're not acknowledging that the wins were piling up during the easiest part of our schedule, and when we played teams that were missing their stars. Because we had the hardest schedule to start, it was inevitable that it slowed way down--and that's when we got healthy and got hot.
We're not close to a .500 team this year, no matter how thick your rose-colored glasses are.
Since games which include injuries magically don't count, it's only fair to return the favor and remove the following:
win vs. Phoenix (Bledsoe, Okafor, Barbosa)
win vs. Lakers (Kobe, Gasol, Young, Farmar)
win vs. Kings (Cousins, Gay)
win vs. Nuggets (Miller, Galinari, McGee, Robinson)
win vs. OKC (Ibaka)
Continuing that correction and applying it to all of the Jazz' games, I've got them with a record of 3 wins and 6 losses overall this season in "real" games. That's about 33%, which is close to 42-44%, which -- by this point -- we all know is essentially 50%. And since numbers within 6 to 8 percent of each other are basically the same, let's just call it what it is and say that the Jazz are -- for all intents and purposes -- a .580 team. That's good enough for 3rd place (in the East).
Please, anyone with the balls to step up and say they predicted before this season that the Jazz would be in 3rd place in March, go ahead and do so. And I'll call you a liar.
Suck it, haters.
win vs. Phoenix (Bledsoe, Okafor, Barbosa)
win vs. Lakers (Kobe, Gasol, Young, Farmar)
win vs. Kings (Cousins, Gay)
win vs. Nuggets (Miller, Galinari, McGee, Robinson)
win vs. OKC (Ibaka)
Continuing that correction and applying it to all of the Jazz' games, I've got them with a record of 3 wins and 6 losses overall this season in "real" games. That's about 33%, which is close to 42-44%, which -- by this point -- we all know is essentially 50%. And since numbers within 6 to 8 percent of each other are basically the same, let's just call it what it is and say that the Jazz are -- for all intents and purposes -- a .580 team. That's good enough for 3rd place (in the East).
Please, anyone with the balls to step up and say they predicted before this season that the Jazz would be in 3rd place in March, go ahead and do so. And I'll call you a liar.
Suck it, haters.
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It's pretty convenient to trash Trey's win record after a 3 game skid too. Just one week ago the Jazz were 20-22 (47.6%) with Trey as a full time starter. Favors and Hayward missed several games during that run but you're not bringing that up. Give them a few games to regress back to the mean and they'll probably be 23-25 (47.9%).
This team is a .500 team next season under Corbin without a single player addition. Trey, Burks, Favors, and Kanter continuing to grow and will assure that. So will the team growing and jelling in Corbin's system.
I don't get why everyone's hating on the team being a .500 team. The tank is long dead.
Those teams weren't intentionally built to lose though so how can we compare Trey's injury with no backup to a couple other teams?
Stifle Tower
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Well, by franklin's logic, Utah has two NBA championships (c'mon, we were close enough).
Ty has also led Utah to the playoffs the last three seasons (close enough). After all, when Sloan stepped down, Jazz were in playoff position. Not his fault the team finished poorly - so give Ty credit for the playoffs that season (close enough). And it certainly isn't Ty's fault that a veteran-laden team last year finished 12-12 in the months of March/April. Jazz were "close enough." After all, the goal in this league is to finish .500. It's those mean teams that had better records than Utah did in the Western Conference. All Utah needs to do is have a coach that can give them a .500 record and some day the rest of the league will come down to that level.
It's hilarious that 20-25 or however you want to spin this is "close enough" to .500. By all means give franklin's brother/uncle or whatever the relation a hefty new contract. Let's get "close enough" to .500 every year. And maybe the 3-yr decline in attendance can be adjusted by the people who were "close enough" to the ESA but didn't enter the building.
Ty has also led Utah to the playoffs the last three seasons (close enough). After all, when Sloan stepped down, Jazz were in playoff position. Not his fault the team finished poorly - so give Ty credit for the playoffs that season (close enough). And it certainly isn't Ty's fault that a veteran-laden team last year finished 12-12 in the months of March/April. Jazz were "close enough." After all, the goal in this league is to finish .500. It's those mean teams that had better records than Utah did in the Western Conference. All Utah needs to do is have a coach that can give them a .500 record and some day the rest of the league will come down to that level.
It's hilarious that 20-25 or however you want to spin this is "close enough" to .500. By all means give franklin's brother/uncle or whatever the relation a hefty new contract. Let's get "close enough" to .500 every year. And maybe the 3-yr decline in attendance can be adjusted by the people who were "close enough" to the ESA but didn't enter the building.
Sexual Favors
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It's jus one game.
It's just one season.
It's just one decade.
It's just one city.
It's just one franchise.
It's just one league.
It's just one season.
It's just one decade.
It's just one city.
It's just one franchise.
It's just one league.
Blaming Ty for the Jazz losing after blowing up the team mid-season is possibly the most illogical thing I've read here.
I called 34 wins before the season started. Looks like I had more faith in Ty than most.
