What's acceptable win total for next season?

[green]

Also, look at Jefferson and Williams stats:

10 pts, 3 rebs, 2 assists, 45% fg, 43% 3pt
9 pts, 5 rebs, 1 assist, 44% fg, 36% 3pt

Where are we going to get that production from? We won't be able to sign any vets that can do that.

For Kanter to pick up the slack, he would have to average 22 and 12. Favors would have to average 23 and 12. And that is if we don't lose Hayward. If you throw Hayward onto the loss pile, holy crap, we will be a bad team next year.

 

[colton]

I think you guys are crazy if you think we could get to 40 wins next year. That would mean that whoever we drafted, would have a historically great rookie season.

LeBron came in and averaged 20 pts a night, and Cleveland only won 35 games that year.

And no, no coach is going to take a 23 win team and add 17 wins. Sorry.

We will be in the 25-35 win range, depending on how good our rookie is, and how good our coach can teach this team to play defense. If our defense doesn't improve, we will be closer to 25 wins.

My view: the Jazz will likely finish with 24 wins this year. With a better coach I think that could have been 29 wins pretty easily. With a better coach and a better bench I think that could have been, say 32 wins with our same core players. With the same core players having another year of growth, I think that could increase to 36-37 wins pretty easily. Then with a very very good rookie (but not historically great), I think that could increase to 40 wins.

 

[bordelais7]

As franklin once astutely pointed out, if you ignore the first 15 or so games where we didn't have a point guard, and then ignore the last 35 or so games where the team clearly gave up, Corbin has this team playing essentially .500 ball. Then, consider that all of the top 5 or 6 draft picks played on college teams last year which had winning percentages of .750 or more. So average what Corbin did this year with what we'll be picking up for next year, and I think the baseline for next year has to be around the .625 mark. If we're lenient and want to build in a little wiggle room for injuries or off-nights we can say .624.

52 wins.

 

[franklin]

As franklin once astutely pointed out, if you ignore the first 15 or so games where we didn't have a point guard, and then ignore the last 35 or so games where the team clearly gave up, Corbin has this team playing essentially .500 ball. Then, consider that all of the top 5 or 6 draft picks played on college teams last year which had winning percentages of .750 or more. So average what Corbin did this year with what we'll be picking up for next year, and I think the baseline for next year has to be around the .625 mark. If we're lenient and want to build in a little wiggle room for injuries or off-nights we can say .624.

52 wins.

You forgot to adjust for the Jazz having the league's toughest schedule this year. Let me search around a bit for a sound statistical calculation we can apply. BRB

 

[DutchJazzer]

My view: the Jazz will likely finish with 24 wins this year. With a better coach I think that could have been 29 wins pretty easily. With a better coach and a better bench I think that could have been, say 32 wins with our same core players. With the same core players having another year of growth, I think that could increase to 36-37 wins pretty easily. Then with a very very good rookie (but not historically great), I think that could increase to 40 wins.

ok 1 question how much wins could horny given this team.

he gave phx 44 wins and possibly counting)

 

[bordelais7]

Also consider that the Jazz have only been outscored by a total of 525 points this season. That's only 6 games worth of points. Let that sink in for a minute. 6 games off the .500 mark is 38-44! So their current record is not representative of how well they've actually been playing.

 

[fishonjazz]

We won't be able to sign any vets that can do that.

Why not?

 

[♪alt13]

As franklin once astutely pointed out, if you ignore the first 15 or so games where we didn't have a point guard, and then ignore the last 35 or so games where the team clearly gave up, Corbin has this team playing essentially .500 ball. Then, consider that all of the top 5 or 6 draft picks played on college teams last year which had winning percentages of .750 or more. So average what Corbin did this year with what we'll be picking up for next year, and I think the baseline for next year has to be around the .625 mark. If we're lenient and want to build in a little wiggle room for injuries or off-nights we can say .624.

52 wins.

If you only count the game when the sixers beat us then they are playing essentially 1.00 ball.

 

[fishonjazz]

My view: the Jazz will likely finish with 24 wins this year. With a better coach I think that could have been 29 wins pretty easily. With a better coach and a better bench I think that could have been, say 32 wins with our same core players. With the same core players having another year of growth, I think that could increase to 36-37 wins pretty easily. Then with a very very good rookie (but not historically great), I think that could increase to 40 wins.

This

 

[bordelais7]

If you only count the game when the sixers beat us then they are playing essentially 1.00 ball.

That would be silly.

 

[Doublea]

I think you guys are crazy if you think we could get to 40 wins next year. That would mean that whoever we drafted, would have a historically great rookie season.

LeBron came in and averaged 20 pts a night, and Cleveland only won 35 games that year.

And no, no coach is going to take a 23 win team and add 17 wins. Sorry.

We will be in the 25-35 win range, depending on how good our rookie is, and how good our coach can teach this team to play defense. If our defense doesn't improve, we will be closer to 25 wins.

Exhibit A: Phoenix.

 

[♪alt13]

That would be silly.

You are right it would be silly. It's also silly to think we are a .500 team because we almost won half of our games during the easiest part of our schedule.