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G-O-A-T said:
If Malone would have won a title in LA, would you give him the same respect for that championship as if he had won it in Utah?

Absolutely! Malone DESERVED to win an NBA title! His career was that great! The fact that he didn't get one with the Jazz and Stockton was tragic....but part of NBA life. He didn't get one with the Lakers. Why? He got hurt and the Lakers didn't have enough sticks to win it all that year! But had they won, no one would have been more deserving on that team than Malone!

As for what city they went to... who cares? They made a deal to get together so they could dominate the league... regardless of where they went, it's still the same thing.

...they went to Miami because they had sufficient cap space, the best city and no state income tax.

As for your assumptions that Jordan would have left just like Lebron? Are you kidding me? Lebron just left the best NBA team (record wise) for 2 straight years. Your seriously telling me that you think Jordan would have left the Bulls after having the best record for 2 straight years all because he wanted to cement his opportunity to win with Magic / Bird?

.....Lebron saw the handwriting on the wall.....so would have Jordan. The Cav's didn't have anymore cap space to improve the team next year.....and perhaps not for a few more years. So he played out his contract and moved on. He didn't force them to renegotiate....he just played out his contract and moved on. Jordan quit after winning 6 rings. Why? He also saw the handwriting on the wall. The Bull's were not in a position to improve the team and guys were getting older. He could have played another year with them. But would he have won? I doubt it.

The simple fact is that D-Wade talked his buddies, Bosh / James, into coming to Miami so that Wade could once again be on a championship team. Bosh had nothing going for him on his part, so of course he jumped on the bandwagon. James... well, he either desperately wanted out of Cleveland or he panicked (got scared he could never win on his own) and left.

....Lebron wanted Wade and Bosh to come to Cleveland. But Wade knew Miami was the better town, city and management and had the cap space to improve the team. You don't honestly think Bosh was going to finally get a chance to leave Toronto....and then move to the pathetic city/area of Cleveland, do you? So they all decided on Miami.

Atleast Wade can use this event to get himself an NBA GM job after he retires...

...you might be more right than you think, on that one!
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carolinajazz said:
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Reply to what? All you did was counter my opinions with your own... I don't have the time, effort, or desire to respond to every sentence you wrote; however, if you want to discuss any particular issue in depth, I'll be happy to chime in with my thoughts.

That said, I appreciate you sharing your opinions... even though they are wrong ;)
 
Hopper said:
Do you know anyone who goes to Cleveland for vacation?

Yeah, that's what I thought, eh?
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....you got that right! You sure got that right! We use to tell guys who were taking vacations and saying they would be in Cleveland: "Hey wait one minute! You're either going on vacation....OR....you're going to Cleveland. You can't be doing BOTH!"
 
carolinajazz said:
...I don't think that was Jordan's point at all! He sure didn't complain when the Bull's got Pippen...and HE was the one that did most of the recruiting to land Rodman! If Jordan was in the same shoes at Lebron, with no more cap space room....and NOBODY wanting to sign to play in Cleveland...he would have bolted like a grasshopper out of a barnyard fire!
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Got Pippen? They essentially drafted him as he was part of a draft-day trade you moran. It was organic.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Got Pippen? They essentially drafted him as he was part of a draft-day trade you moran. It was organic.
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...I don't recollect exactly how the Bull's got Pippen....all I know is that it wasn't until he developed into a top 50 NBA player, that Jordan got the help he needed to win a championship. Jordan needed help....LOTS of it, to win those championships....including the first one! As a side thought, not that I hate being right all the time, notice this guys take on the same subject! Happens to concur with my comments as well!

https://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38327899/ns/sports-nba/
 
carolinajazz said:
...I don't recollect exactly how the Bull's got Pippen....all I know is that it wasn't until he developed into a top 50 NBA player, that Jordan got the help he needed to win a championship. Jordan needed help....LOTS of it, to win those championships....including the first one! As a side thought, not that I hate being right all the time, notice this guys take on the same subject! Happens to concur with my comments as well!

https://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38327899/ns/sports-nba/
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Good for you, one person agrees with your point of you. And that means you're right? This guy could be Forrest ****ing Gump for all we know. Especially with the way journalism's been heading.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Wade might be better than Pippen, but I think its clear that Rodman is better than Bosh. What has Bosh done? Rodman was one of the best defenders and rebounders ever.
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These are tough comparisons. While I agree that Wade might be better than Pippen, I don't think that Wade would necessarily be better in a system with another superstar. Pippen was the ultimate role player... not good enough to carry a team, but able to make the all the right plays at the right time, while not dominating the ball.

As for Bosh vs. Rodman... once again it depends on the team. If I were building a team that needed scoring, I would take Bosh in a heartbeat... but if we already had a solid offense, I would take Rodman. IMO though, I think Rodman type players are more valuable in this age of the NBA where so many players are focused on the O-stats.
 
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