Where is that pit bull thread when I need it?

[LogGrad98]

I proved the ears were cropped to make the dog a better fighter. If you don't agree with my conclusion, you have yet to prove otherwise. Your attempt to clam as fact what you have failed to prove is laughable.

Well scat, along with many of the links I posted PROVED otherwise. Your link did nothing to prove that is made the dog a BETTER fighter, so how you can claim that, well no one but you knows. Please quote the exact passage that states that cropping ears makes the dog a BETTER fighter and more FEROCIOUS as you have claimed. Otherwise, feel free to read the many links scat and I have posted and quoted PROVING otherwise.

 

[LogGrad98]

You have yet to prove that cropping the ears in and of itself makes the dog a more ferocious fighter. It makes it harder to damage the ears, but does nothing to affect the temperament of the dog. Your attempt to claim as fact what you have failed to prove or support is laughable.

I proved the ears were cropped to make the dog a better fighter. If you don't agree with my conclusion, you have yet to prove otherwise. Your attempt to clam as fact what you have failed to prove is laughable.

What exactly did you post that proved it made the dog a better fighter? All you posted was a link showing that they used to crop the dogs ears for fights. Nothing at all even remotely proves a correlation between cropping and FEROCIOUSNESS or ABILITY to fight. Again, feel free to post the exact quote that proves that cropping = automatically a more FEROCIOUS and BETTER fighting dog. Oh and it would help to post the exact quote that the only reason for cropping is specifically to make the dog more ferocious, since scat and I have posted easily 6-10 links and quotes showing that is NOT correct.

Or you can just keep insisting you are right in the face of all evidence to the contrary. That seems to work so well.

 

[freakazoid]

Owning a pitbull is not like owning a gun, it's like owning a time bomb that might go off at any moment or might never go off.

I disagree. There is a certain amount of responsibilty that comes with either one, and they both have the potential for accidental maming and death. Common sense says that if you have kids in your house, and you own a gun, you need to keep it locked up. So why is it that every year without fail, kids get a hold of their parent's guns and accidentally shoot themselves or someone else? Stupid and/or careless gun owners. I'm against stupid/irresponsible people owning guns, but that doesn't mean we should just ban everyone from owning them.

I would agree that there is a greater responsibilty in owning a pit bull than a gun, but when it comes to stupid and/or careless people, I would rather they didn't own either one.

 

[Gameface]

I disagree. There is a certain amount of responsibilty that comes with either one, and they both have the potential for accidental maming and death. Common sense says that if you have kids in your house, and you own a gun, you need to keep it locked up. So why is it that every year without fail, kids get a hold of their parent's guns and accidentally shoot themselves or someone else? Stupid and/or careless gun owners. I'm against stupid/irresponsible people owning guns, but that doesn't mean we should just ban everyone from owning them.

I would agree that there is a greater responsibilty in owning a pit bull than a gun, but when it comes to stupid and/or careless people, I would rather they didn't own either one.

I hesitate to respond only because I don't want to turn this into a gun debate. That said...

I don't think people are hurt by accidental shootings, I think they're hurt by someone neglecting their responsibility in regard to proper gun handling and storage.

I also think pit bulls are safe pets if the owners don't neglect their responsibilities. I wasn't trying to make an anti-pit bull argument erlier, I was just playing devil's advocate to draw a comparison between they way in which guns hurt people compared to pit bulls. One requires human intent, the other doesn't.

 

[TroutBum]

I'm happy to see someone else pointing and laughing at Salty besides me. I was starting to feel bad.

 

[Bronco70]

I really didn't want to get sucked back into this fiasco, but I have to add, regarding the guns v. pitbulls issue; if suddenly there was no human negligence or misuse of guns, they would automatically be 100% safe. If every pitbull owner suddenly did a perfect job of keeping their dog, I do not believe you could assert that pitbull attacks would cease to occur.

 

[TroutBum]

I really didn't want to get sucked back into this fiasco, but I have to add, regarding the guns v. pitbulls issue; if suddenly there was no human negligence or misuse of guns, they would automatically be 100% safe. If every pitbull owner suddenly did a perfect job of keeping their dog, I do not believe you could assert that pitbull attacks would cease to occur.

Again with facts and logical thinking? Please, take that nonsense elsewhere -- Numberica and Salty are thinking here!

 

[GVC]

I really didn't want to get sucked back into this fiasco, but I have to add, regarding the guns v. pitbulls issue; if suddenly there was no human negligence or misuse of guns, they would automatically be 100% safe. If every pitbull owner suddenly did a perfect job of keeping their dog, I do not believe you could assert that pitbull attacks would cease to occur.

But that's never going to happen. I don't have a dog in this fight, but this argument seems pretty stupid to me. If pit bulls had super human intelligence and gummy bears for teeth, pooped rainbows, and greeted everyone with a hug, they'd be 100% safe.

 

[Scat]

But that's never going to happen. I don't have a dog in this fight, but this argument seems pretty stupid to me. If pit bulls had super human intelligence and gummy bears for teeth, pooped rainbows, and greeted everyone with a hug, they'd be 100% safe.

No they wouldn't. They'd find another way to exact their aggression on other living creatures.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Headgear, goggles, and body armor can certainly be considered weapons. If you are using them to win a fight, then yes, it's a weapon.

Stop. Just ****ing stop. Jesus.

 

[bigb]

I've come to the conclusion that arguing with Salty is like shining a light in the eyes of a blind man. Everyone sees the light except him.

 

[Safetydan]

Headgear, goggles, and body armor can certainly be considered weapons. If you are using them to win a fight, then yes, it's a weapon.

This is, easily, the most insane thing i've read on the internet this past year, maybe forever.