Which direction do you want the team to go the rest of the season?

[LogGrad98]

That was 16yrs ago. Just because he did that once doesn't mean he can do it again. He tried it with Kyrie and Hayward and it didn't work out and then he brought in Kemba who turned into the worst contract in the nba. No one is saying Ainge hit on things but we also can't just completely ignore the misses as well.

Same for everyone else as well then. And most of them do not have a manufactured championship under their belt. And he just pulled off 2 of the most lopsided trades in league history. IMO his skills in this regard are underrated.

 

[sip]

The cap goes up 50% over that time and it'd be fine. I'd probably front load the deal a bit to protect it if I could. I don't see his role shrinking... I doubt he drops off a cliff production wise. This is the best he's ever played and he has become a better playmaker.... we know he can always go back to being a bench gunner too.

If his role doesn't shrink then we are screwed. If he is your number 2 guy then you will never be more than a middle of the pack team. That is just reality. He is a good player but by no means is he a great player.

 

[sip]

Same for everyone else as well then. And most of them do not have a manufactured championship under their belt. And he just pulled off 2 of the most lopsided trades in league history. IMO his skills in this regard are underrated.

You are seriously jumping the gun on calling these trades some of the most lopsided in league history. Particularly the cavs deal. We are definitely happy but we still have no clue where all these picks will land. Now if you want to take about one of the most lopsided trades in league history then look no further than the SGA trade and it still has a bunch more picks to convey. The Westbrook for CP trade may also be in that category in the near future.

 

[str8line]

He’s in the range where he’s still young enough to be a key part of the team for another 3-4 years.

I'd rather trade for assets while he's at his peak and give the young players the court time they need to develop. Stack those assets for our championships in 2026-2030. 4-peat. Lauri would be 32-years-old with four rings.

 

[Step-Back Hook]

I don't know. I feel like even if we trade several veterans it is going to be too late to have a high chance for highest picks. Lauri, Sexton, Kessler, Ochai seems just too good to lose more than 1/3 of the games post trade dead-line. The bench would be worse and we would miss Mike and JC for sure but the rest of our schedule is also one of the easiest in the league.
If the trades will not happen until right at the trade deadline I think this team might have 29-30 wins with 26 games left to go.

We might have to lose like 20 out of them to get into lotteries. Not sure if it is worth more than getting Lauri and Kessler some post-season burn. These two will need help for sure in the future but here we have one of the best defensive rookies and as it seems, an all nba caliber scorer. I would love to get someone like Scoot but it just does not seem likely to happen.

 

[str8line]

I don't know. I feel like even if we trade several veterans it is going to be too late to have a high chance for highest picks. Lauri, Sexton, Kessler, Ochai seems just too good to lose more than 1/3 of the games post trade dead-line. The bench would be worse and we would miss Mike and JC for sure but the rest of our schedule is also one of the easiest in the league.
If the trades will not happen until right at the trade deadline I think this team might have 29-30 wins with 26 games left to go.

We might have to lose like 20 out of them to get into lotteries. Not sure if it is worth more than getting Lauri and Kessler some post-season burn. These two will need help for sure in the future but here we have one of the best defensive rookies and as it seems, an all nba caliber scorer. I would love to get someone like Scoot but it just does not seem likely to happen.

Mike is a great influence on the team and likely not worth much so keeping him is no big deal.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Personally, I think the Jazz should still be in assets acquisition mode.

If I were DA, I’d be working the phones to try to move Conley, KO, Beasley and maybe Vando (depending on the value coming back). Im okay with taking on a bad contract or two right now to add high quality assets. If we can be an opportunistic buyer and get a young player back that can maybe be a part of our core group moving forward. . . Im not opposed to that.

If they win, they win. If they lose, they still win. I’m just enjoying the moment.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If his role doesn't shrink then we are screwed. If he is your number 2 guy then you will never be more than a middle of the pack team. That is just reality. He is a good player but by no means is he a great player.

If he is the second best scorer its not ideal. But he is an efficient high volume guy right now. We have a MEGA efficient high volume guy... and we might have a great defense if Lauri and Walker continue to come together and we add some wing help. We are a great offense... so I'm not sure we'd be screwed there. We aren't contenders in the next year or two... so medium term 2-3 years its fine... long term we need something better or to add something more dynamic.

The recipe without a mega star is tough... I just wouldn't scrap JC until I had something better.

 

[Elizah Huge]

That was 16yrs ago. Just because he did that once doesn't mean he can do it again. He tried it with Kyrie and Hayward and it didn't work out and then he brought in Kemba who turned into the worst contract in the nba. No one is saying Ainge hit on things but we also can't just completely ignore the misses as well.

He also built the current Celtics team who has been a perennial contender in the EC for the last what 5-6 years? Winning a championship in the NBA is hard as ****.

 

[str8line]

Personally, I think the Jazz should still be in assets acquisition mode.

If I were DA, I’d be working the phones to try to move Conley, KO, Beasley and maybe Vando (depending on the value coming back). Im okay with taking on a bad contract or two right now to add high quality assets. If we can be an opportunistic buyer and get a young player back that can maybe be a part of our core group moving forward. . . Im not opposed to that.

If they win, they win. If they lose, they still win. I’m just enjoying the moment.

Yup. The only bait I'd keep in the boat for sure are Lauri and Kessler. I like Sexton's moxie and NAW and Ochai aren't worth anything and seem to have good upsides, otherwise it's everyone in the water.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I thought the poll would be closer to 50/50. I guess the pro tankers are just much louder on the board.

Edit: It also looks like a lot of the pro tank people haven't actually voted, maybe don't want to be on record about it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I thought the poll would be closer to 50/50. I guess the pro tankers are just much louder on the board.

Edit: It also looks like a lot of the pro tank people haven't actually voted, maybe don't want to be on record about it.

There isn't an option that closely resembles my position I guess. Kessler's last two games has me doubting we can tank at this point. He's on the Don rookie development path where he gets noticeably better every week lol.